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In Reply to: Italian and French wit & sophistication??? posted by tinear on April 23, 2002 at 20:05:39:

as we sometimes are a little bit snobbish with our EU production..Here and there( there, that is abroad)...A kind of cinema verite..for intellectual..do you copy ?
It is always better when it come from some where else,is it not?
Actually the current French Film is a bad replication of the worst Hollywood as to offer, minus the professional quality that the U.S have.
R. Altaman is certainly NOT representative of what you can find in your country.
The fact is that is that quality is not improving,and I am already glad when I met film like Sakespear ein love made in Holl.or some of the Cohen Bros...
So you just missed what I wanted to say,no wonder,as we are two strangers,with (?) different sensibility.
And you can see,in the end that we meant the same.
My list ended by Truffaud, a propos continent have you seen his " Two english girls and the Continent " or how was it called in you language.
And yes I definitively prefer the French wine to the Californian one.

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Re: It was meant to be ironic... Part two. - patrickU 04:14:46 04/24/02 (2)
In fact all the EU film makers always orientated them self to America.**Yesterday,today..and tomorrow.
Most of the Great Americans directors* came from Europe.
So what is what.
*L�age d�or du cinema Americain.
** Les Cahiers du Cinema
All the French films directors loved J. Ford. ( more maybe than in...his own country.
- Maybe ironic means something different abroad? - tinear 08:03:17 04/24/02 (1)
  Most American great directors came from Europe? Well, we agree on some points, mon ami, but here we diverge. I'll grant you "some...", but not "most." De Mille, Stevens, Kubrick, Ford...I could go on and on.
  Wine? Quite seriously, I used to just about drink only French wine; five trips to the grand country only consolidated my tastes. But now...I find I drink very little French wine, in general (Champagne mostly). Pinot noir, chardonnay, pinot gris...I drink from Oregon. France's own Domaine Drouhin produces one of our (I'm an Oregonian, at least for a few months more) best local wines. We're the producer that whipped up on the French in the dreaded double blind tasting tests of fifteen or so years ago in which Oregon pinot noir triumphed. Ouch.
  - Read the title of my first post..... - patrickU 09:46:22 04/24/02 (0)
    can you not find the irony ?
    Wel...if you want you MUST see it,I know ..I know it is never enjoyable to miss one ,but who did not ?
    So I was not ?
    Ok. let us forget it.
    Let us quantitify....
    Lubitsch
    Wilder
    Hitch ( for me , one of the very best )
    Kazan
    Cukor
    Wyler
    Zinnemann
    Chaplin
    Curtis
    Capra
    and many more...
    So let us talk wine..Double testing...( we all love that in our hifi hobby..)
    I drank a lot of wines ( of course no proof ) but the Bourgogne and the Bordeaux are not an easy to beat..and I made a lot of wine testing.I mean you find a lot of good wine every where..but the best are in France , on some special category like very sweet white wine, the German one may be better..( beside the Chateau D�Yquiem who is full of finesse....
    Salut.

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