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In Reply to: Apologies in advance for differing with you on this, but the entire Superman series... posted by Audiophilander on May 30, 2002 at 15:18:49:
The only thing "new" about Spidey is the CGI Efx and the orange hair of the...ahem...heroine.Though cut from the same, fad film cloth, for a film of it's time, the original Superman still rules !
Spidey's casting just doesn't make it, unless you're a fan of "Friends". One can't seriously compare the small-tube, dime store Lex Luthor, to Gene Hackman's well rounded, camp performance. It just isn't a convincing argument! Good try if you've never seen the original Superman movie, though.
Orange hair and new CGI just can't give it the edge it needs to become a genuine classic of the Superman stature.
There has to be "more"! That special something.
Let's see if it holds up when the sequel comes out! That will be the REAL test! Soon to be an eBay collector's item, the Spidey craze is already ending...Star Wars is beating it to death in the box office !
I know some folks have a h*rd-*n for the earlier campy approaches, but I for one am grateful for the satisfying depiction of Marvel's characters. As a fan of comics from waaaay back I like Superman, Batman, Flash, etc., but rarely have they translated as believeable live action characters. About the best envisioned Superman before the recent Smallville series goes back to the first Reeve's essaying of Superman on TV, George Reeves that is, back in 1951. For about a year the character had a serious interpretation with almost pulp-like plots and heroics. After that, the sponsors and DC's publishers requested the character be toned down and the plots made less violent, effectively turning into a campy kiddie-level show for the rest of it's 7 year run. Of course, if you think the the "original Superman still rules" you must mean the Columbia serials with Kirk Allen essaying the role back in '48 & '50, right? ;^)Your critique of the heroine's orange hair (Mary Jane Watson portrayed by Kursten Dunst) is just plain silly; besides, it was red toned or are you just encountering the early stages of color blindness? FTR, I'm not a huge fan of CGI (i.e., esp. after Star Woes Epistle II, Attack of the Moans), but I thought it was used effectively and judiciously in Spider-Man. Obviously, having Sam Raimi helm the film was a brilliant choice for the studio.
BTW, don't worry about the "Spidey craze" ending soon. There has been a Spidey craze of sorts for forty years and it hasn't subsided yet. Maybe the producers of fantasy heroic films based on comics are finally beginning to get a clue and trust their "Spider-sense" where audiences are concerned (i.e., if the film is good the audience will be there).
AuPh
The Batman movie I would like to see would have to be the best comic I ever read,Frank Millers "Return of the dark knight".In this comic he finally defeats and kills the Joker(quite a brutal fight)and defeats Superman in battle.Would be great and dark if done right.
As it seems that it's longevity you're measuring it by, Superman wins!Anyway...if there was a fight between Superman and Spiderman, Spiderman would be a pile of spider goo ! There !!!!!
If you are measuring longevity strictly by how long both characters have been around, well of course Superman would win, but I was factoring in both character's contemporary appeal and gauging by how consistently popular Spidey has been for over 40 years. Under that criteria Spider-Man has aged somewhat better as indicated by current box-office revenues. Now, compare that with the first Superman movie's box-office take.> > > "Anyway...if there was a fight between Superman and Spiderman, Spiderman would be a pile of Spider goo!" < < <
Not so, amigo! See the image above! That fight occured quite awhile back and came out a draw my friend. ;^)
Cheers,
AuPh
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