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In Reply to: $3000 in 1919????? posted by Victor Khomenko on November 22, 1999 at 04:52:45:
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...but things are more prosaic.As you probably recall, in the Razor's Edge movie (some I suspect may even have read the book) the whole hoopla happened because the self-sacrificing girl didn't want to live on $3000 per year. So I got curious.
I also went back to the remake and one obvious thing struck me - I guess the purpose of the remake was to simply "discover" some foul language. Educational purpose, shall we say...
Now, I shall admit: I am a great sucker for beautifully spoken English - perhaps because we all long for something that we shall never behold. I enjoy every second of My Fair Lady in large part because of the Higgins' locution and his way with the language - rather masterful and sharp like the blade on my French Empire small court sword (sorry, had to do this plug, my wife just brought me a present from Paris and I keep it on my desk).
What the remake did, was to "surgically" (read "butcher-like") replace certain parts of the original Moem's language, yes, you've guessed it, masterful and sharp, with modern-age street speech pattern. Maybe we should be grateful they didn't reach for some Ebonics.
The famous Teresa Russel's (and she is simply the best of mostly inept bunch in the new one) phrase: "You sacrificed yourself for mink fucking coat" sounds much more benign in the original version. There Mr. Moem says: "You sacrificed yourself for square-cut diamond and SABLE coat". Is it not a bit patronizing to think that the American public has no notion of sable any longer? If things continue their slide down that slope, in some near future we will have to use something like a bucket of popcorn in place of whatever fine.
Listening to Cliffton Webb was a real pleasure. Snobbish aristocrat, sure, kick him for that, but no shit, fuck or asshole from that character. Guess what - somehow he managed to get his feelings across. And quite strongly I must say.
Now we need to go back and see again the Sitting Pretty with him - I remember how I loved it some thirty years ago.
So, how was dacha? Some potato digging this time of the year? Malakhovka?
As fas as antique gans go, I asked my friends in Moscow to look for some SVT-40 magazines - they are impossible to find here. You wouldn't have some in your basement, would you?
Hi, VictorI haven't seen these movies, so my comments are just general.
Your examlpe shows one thing that concerns me more and more.
It's not only language... looks like everything becomes
simplified and unified. I obtain standartized characters,
stories, tricks and, yes, language. "Fuck you" as a (lowest:)
common denominator for some basic emotion...For me, this makes lots of movies predictable and boring.
And even when I'm successfully entertained, I still feel
that my pleasure carries a good doze of... well, something
like masturbation.Is it an "inflation" of film art as we know it? Hmm... if it
isn't then what IS? Sign of the beast? Well, I doubt it; my
guess is that culture will (most probably:) survive, as it
happened before.It's difficult to me even to qualify such a standartization
as 100% negative thing... creative art can occur inside a
restricted set of hard rules; music and literature show it's
possible. Maybe my problem is just a limited experience...
I've seen only *combinatorial*, not creative activity so far...
my fault, maybe?Actually, I don't care much, since there are TONS of old *quality*
movies out there to enjoy. :)
As for dacha, it was cool indeed. "Dachka v Kratovo, Volga-matushka...".
It's near Istra indeed. :) I was done with potatoes in September,
so this time there was just *snow* digging. Fresh air, cold vodka,
some sex... life is good.
> > As fas as antique gans go, I asked my friends in Moscow to look for
some SVT-40 magazines - they are impossible to find here. You wouldn't
have some in your basement, would you? < <Sorry, I'm peaceful. :) There's nothing but vegetables in my basement.
SVT is Tokarev, right? I've heard that Tula is a good place to do
gun-searching.
regards, gnat
***Your examlpe shows one thing that concerns me more and more.
It's not only language... looks like everything becomes
simplified and unified. I obtain standartized characters,
stories, tricks and, yes, language. "Fuck you" as a (lowest:)
common denominator for some basic emotion...As they used to say at Phys-Tech - "you can't fight entropy". Eventually it takes over.
***For me, this makes lots of movies predictable and boring.
And even when I'm successfully entertained, I still feel
that my pleasure carries a good doze of... well, something
like masturbation.Careful here. We are still just one step from teaching masturbation in schools. The fact they threw one idiot out doesn't help much - they are like most pests - there are plenty more to come.
***Actually, I don't care much, since there are TONS of old *quality*
movies out there to enjoy. :)You are right, that's how I feel too. Every once in a while there is a good new one too. And it is usually easy to tell what is worth watching so I don't usually spend any hard-earned tugriks on trash. I have friends early-scouts doing fine work.
***As for dacha, it was cool indeed. "Dachka v Kratovo, Volga-matushka...".
It's near Istra indeed. :) I was done with potatoes in September,
so this time there was just *snow* digging.Oh, sorry, I forgot... It is still t-shirt and sandals here. Well, maybe not every day... How far from Moscow is that?
***Fresh air, cold vodka,
some sex... life is good.Sounds like it...
***Sorry, I'm peaceful. :) There's nothing but vegetables in my basement.
SVT is Tokarev, right?Yes.
***I've heard that Tula is a good place to do
gun-searching.Any tubes made there? I guess I need an excuse to go there.
We are having the Thanksgiving here. I take this moment to thank God (whomever that might be) for everything good here and in your land, and everywhere else. Join us tomorrow in gulping some icey-cold vodka.
Hi, Victor
> > >
***Your examlpe shows one thing that concerns me more and more.
It's not only language... looks like everything becomes
simplified and unified. I obtain standartized characters,
stories, tricks and, yes, language. "Fuck you" as a (lowest:)
common denominator for some basic emotion...As they used to say at Phys-Tech - "you can't fight entropy".
Eventually it takes over.
< < <Phys-Tech's... I spent good five years working in P-T
'environment'. Learned from 'em a LOT. Kinda perfect
complement for my mech-mat basics.
> > >
***Actually, I don't care much, since there are TONS of old *quality*
movies out there to enjoy. :)You are right, that's how I feel too. Every once in a while there is
a good new one too. And it is usually easy to tell what is worth watching
so I don't usually spend any hard-earned tugriks on trash. I have friends
early-scouts doing fine work.
< < <I'd LOVE your friends... mostly I have to walk through garbage myself.
16 tugriks rental and 1.5 - 3 hours of my valuable time per film. :(Old stuff is MUCH more comfortable in this sence. Just see-buy-fly,
all hits & no misses.
> > >
***As for dacha, it was cool indeed. "Dachka v Kratovo, Volga-matushka...".
It's near Istra indeed. :) I was done with potatoes in September,
so this time there was just *snow* digging.Oh, sorry, I forgot... It is still t-shirt and sandals here. Well, maybe
not every day... How far from Moscow is that?
< < <~60 km from Kreml, :) ~1.5 hours car or ~2.5 municipal from my apartment.
> > >
***I've heard that Tula is a good place to do
gun-searching.Any tubes made there? I guess I need an excuse to go there.
< < <Afaik, no. Well... waitaminute... hmmm... metal processing...
"I've told they know some tricks to make our gear cases look
EVEN better! Have to check it *myself*." ;-) Happy hunting!
> > >
We are having the Thanksgiving here. I take this moment to
thank God (whomever that might be) for everything good here
and in your land, and everywhere else. Join us tomorrow in
gulping some icey-cold vodka.
< < <Thank you (and God, of course). "Okhotnichya" is waiting... cheers!
regards, gnat
***Phys-Tech's... I spent good five years working in P-T
'environment'. Learned from 'em a LOT. Kinda perfect
complement for my mech-mat basics.I am getting forgetful. Refresh my memory re: mat-mech vs. mech-mat?
***How far from Moscow is that?
***~60 km from Kreml, :) ~1.5 hours car
That's one sloooooow car... What, are you pushing it all the way from Kremlin? Yeah, I have seen Moscow traffic - about as organized as Palermo... in Palermo you have to stop for dead bodies, in Moscow it is holes, ah, and yes, some dead bodies too...
*** "Okhotnichya" is waiting... cheers!
I need to refresh my taste of Okhotnichya - I think my store has it.
By the way, those weavy lines on some of our front panels were not Damascus steel, just a less-that-perfect manufacturing process.
My regards to folks in Moscow.
Hi, Victor
< < <
***Phys-Tech's... I spent good five years working in P-T
'environment'. Learned from 'em a LOT. Kinda perfect
complement for my mech-mat basics.I am getting forgetful. Refresh my memory re: mat-mech vs. mech-mat?
> > >Mat-mech in Piter, mech-mat in Moscow. "Everybody knows..." :)
< < <
***How far from Moscow is that?***~60 km from Kreml, :) ~1.5 hours car
That's one sloooooow car... What, are you pushing it all the
way from Kremlin? Yeah, I have seen Moscow traffic - about as
organized as Palermo... in Palermo you have to stop for dead
bodies, in Moscow it is holes, ah, and yes, some dead bodies too...
> > >No, I don't live in Kremlin... yet. Just tryin' to be precise.
Thing is, 20 of these 60 km are *inside* Moscow, so how far
is it from Moscow really?And yes, ~1.5 hours is more traffic than car problem. And roads...
You know, Russian troubles are fools and roads... some things never
change.
< < <
*** "Okhotnichya" is waiting... cheers!I need to refresh my taste of Okhotnichya - I think my store has it.
> > >Take care, it's 45 deg and contains a bit of Port. You can also try
my (proprietary:) way. I start from classical ice-cold and proceed
sloooooooowly, NOT trying to keep it cold, so it's warming in the process.
Final drinks are almost @ body temperature. The license is free for
non-commercial purposes.And BTW, your hot soup recommendation is spot on. It reveals less known
aspect of vodka ritual... it can be just a wonderful accompanement for
some great food!
< < <
By the way, those weavy lines on some of our front panels were not
Damascus steel, just a less-that-perfect manufacturing process.
> > >I'm disappointed... NOT! ;-) Question is, can you "design" some
nice... excuse for visiting Tula, based on this process?
< < <
My regards to folks in Moscow.
> > >My regards to folks in Wilmington. Had to look @ website to reply this,
now I wonder whether the choice of *Beethoven* Drive was intentional? :)
regards, gnat
***Mat-mech in Piter, mech-mat in Moscow. "Everybody knows..." :)Sure. Let them snobs sort it all out. I am strictly an LPI FRE man... FRE rules!
***No, I don't live in Kremlin... yet. Just tryin' to be precise.
Thing is, 20 of these 60 km are *inside* Moscow, so how far
is it from Moscow really?Too complicated. Need a calculator to figure that out. Would that be 20 plus 60? I knew I could do it!
***And yes, ~1.5 hours is more traffic than car problem. And roads...
You know, Russian troubles are fools and roads... some things never
change.Some things change for worse too. You didn't have that traffic twenty years ago. You didn't have those ugly parking lots either. You didn't have Yeltsin, but I am not sure if this is better or worse.
< < <
*** "Okhotnichya" is waiting... cheers!I need to refresh my taste of Okhotnichya - I think my store has it.
> > >***Take care, it's 45 deg and contains a bit of Port. You can also try
my (proprietary:) way. I start from classical ice-cold and proceed
sloooooooowly, NOT trying to keep it cold, so it's warming in the process.
Final drinks are almost @ body temperature. The license is free for
non-commercial purposes.I know you intentionally left out the size of your drink, just to preserve the tranquility of this board members. Now, honest, is one drink 500mL or closer to 750?
I still remember the standard calculation for most *good* parties back in Russia - one bottle of vodka per person (that included women and children) plus wine and beer.
***And BTW, your hot soup recommendation is spot on. It reveals less known
aspect of vodka ritual... it can be just a wonderful accompanement for
some great food!Quite true.
< < <
By the way, those weavy lines on some of our front panels were not
Damascus steel, just a less-that-perfect manufacturing process.
> > >***I'm disappointed... NOT! ;-) Question is, can you "design" some
nice... excuse for visiting Tula, based on this process?Working on it...
My regards to folks in Moscow.
> > >***My regards to folks in Wilmington. Had to look @ website to reply this,
Well, I thought "everyone knew"... You are breaking my heart.
***now I wonder whether the choice of *Beethoven* Drive was intentional? :)True address. When we were house hunting, my wife saw the street name and didn't want to look any further. It helped that the house was real nice too. The company started in my 2500 sq. foot basement, all equipped, and stayed there for couple of years, until some day my wife kicked everyone out. She allowed us to keep the address though. It DOES sound right, doesn't it?
BTW, speaking of movies, started watching yesterday a strange one: The Raggedy Rawney. Still don't know what to think about it. Have you seen it?
Could you give me a list of good recent Russian movies - I can get them all here, just need to know what to ask for and the guy who runs the shop is not much into the fine art of movie making. All genre's will be fine, including some nice action. If you could go back few years - that would be swell. I have seen many, but I am sure not most.
Victor.
Hi, Victor
> > >
***No, I don't live in Kremlin... yet. Just tryin' to be precise.
Thing is, 20 of these 60 km are *inside* Moscow, so how far
is it from Moscow really?Too complicated. Need a calculator to figure that out. Would that
be 20 plus 60? I knew I could do it!
< < <Look folks, that's what happens when someone forgets how to use slide rule!
> > >
***And yes, ~1.5 hours is more traffic than car problem. And roads...
You know, Russian troubles are fools and roads... some things never
change.Some things change for worse too. You didn't have that traffic twenty
years ago. You didn't have those ugly parking lots either. You didn't
have Yeltsin, but I am not sure if this is better or worse.
< < <Honestly I dunno. Maybe roads became better for fools now.
> > >
I know you intentionally left out the size of your drink, just to preserve
the tranquility of this board members. Now, honest, is one drink 500mL or
closer to 750?
< < <Sorry to disappoint you. I'm a slow drinker. Preferable size is 25-75mL.
Yes, twenty-five! Comfortable total is between 300 and 700, depending on
the party. Actually, some 8 or 10 years ago I noticed that I can recognize
and appreciate even the one and only gnat-sized 25mL doze. That was a BIG
surprise. So under-doze isn't a big deal for me. As opposed to OVERdoze.
> > >
I still remember the standard calculation for most *good* parties back
in Russia - one bottle of vodka per person (that included women and children)
plus wine and beer.
< < <My friends @ 18 school "invented" Li-G-Ryl metric. That's abbreviated
Litr-GRadus-Rylo. Multiply litres by degrees, divide the product by
number of... well... persons to get the party in Li-G-Ryl's. Thorough
empirical research revealed optimal Li-G-Ryl as ~20. So your standard
is in the ballpark.
> > >
***now I wonder whether the choice of *Beethoven* Drive was intentional? :)True address. When we were house hunting, my wife saw the street name
and didn't want to look any further. It helped that the house was real
nice too. The company started in my 2500 sq. foot basement, all equipped,
and stayed there for couple of years, until some day my wife kicked
everyone out. She allowed us to keep the address though. It DOES sound
right, doesn't it?
> > >Have to admit, she's plain SMART. And you... well... plain LUCKY.
Hey... *my* wife buys me movies too!
< < <
BTW, speaking of movies, started watching yesterday a strange one:
The Raggedy Rawney. Still
don't know what to think about it. Have you seen it?
> > >No. And the title looks completely unfamiliar. So I'm intrigued. Can you
provide some additional info on it, like year, genre, actors etc? I'll try
to find it here.
> > >
Could you give me a list of good recent Russian movies - I can get them
all here, just need to know what to ask for and the guy who runs the shop
is not much into the fine art of movie making. All genre's will be fine,
including some nice action. If you could go back few years - that would
be swell. I have seen many, but I am sure not most.
> > >I have a strong feeling that *good* ones are in the past. Current are rather
in more/less *decent* territory. And with my rotten memory I need some more
time to make such a list.Here are few relatively safe choices. Since you've seen many, these are
most probably familiar, but it's all I can remember now.- Specifics Of Russian National Hunting = Osobennosti russkoj natsional'noj
okhoty. Not a stupid and funny comedy.- Love In A Russian Style (I) = Ljubit' po-russki. Sentimental. Actor playing
avove current average. Slight smell of socialist realism, sorry. If you'll
like it, proceed with II.- Agent Of National Security = translate literally. ;-) Action, but TAKE CARE!
I haven't seen it yet, rec is based on s/h info. I'm going to try it in the
near for 16 tugriks as usual, will keep you informed.
I'll make some further research, but don't hold your breath. I'm really slow
and lazy. Do you remember your request about classics for brass orchestra
@ Music Lane... looooong time ago? I got interested, it turned out that wife
is fan of this music as well, we made (and still make) some search, we've
bought a few LP's and... And I still have no comments. :((( She didn't filed
it yet, and I can't remember all the necessary details myself...I HATE my memory! Umm... wellll... long ago she heard live... well, it was
something like 'CCCP State Brass Orchestra', conductor was... err... Petroff?
I'm sure, neither Ivanoff, nor Sidoroff. And if memory serves her, they played
Pictures On(Of?:) An Excibition.
Damn. I must drink LESS.
regards, gnat
***Sorry to disappoint you. I'm a slow drinker. Preferable size is 25-75mL.
Yes, twenty-five! Comfortable total is between 300 and 700, depending on
the party. Actually, some 8 or 10 years ago I noticed that I can recognize
and appreciate even the one and only gnat-sized 25mL doze. That was a BIG
surprise. So under-doze isn't a big deal for me. As opposed to OVERdoze.I understand. It is interesting to note that most people who came here have quickly lost their drive to drink a lot. I don't have any idea why (must be the that free US air), but I hardly see anyone do it anymore - even those who used to be rather intensive drinkers do stop here. Case in point: we had 14 people yesterday and we went through 3 pitiful bottles of (arguably good) wine. Not that there was none more available - it just happened naturally. I am almost ashamed to admit, but I still have some hard liquor bottles that I opened some fifteen years ago...
***I still remember the standard calculation for most *good* parties back
in Russia - one bottle of vodka per person (that included women and children)
plus wine and beer.
< < <***My friends @ 18 school "invented" Li-G-Ryl metric. That's abbreviated
Litr-GRadus-Rylo. Multiply litres by degrees, divide the product by
number of... well... persons to get the party in Li-G-Ryl's. Thorough
empirical research revealed optimal Li-G-Ryl as ~20. So your standard
is in the ballpark.Well, "where's my seventeen years?"...
***now I wonder whether the choice of *Beethoven* Drive was intentional? :)***True address. When we were house hunting, my wife saw the street name
and didn't want to look any further. It helped that the house was real
nice too. The company started in my 2500 sq. foot basement, all equipped,
and stayed there for couple of years, until some day my wife kicked
everyone out. She allowed us to keep the address though. It DOES sound
right, doesn't it?
> > >***Have to admit, she's plain SMART.
That's for sure. Smart choice of husband, too...
***And you... well... plain LUCKY.
Hey... *my* wife buys me movies too!Reason enough to keep them.
< < <
BTW, speaking of movies, started watching yesterday a strange one:
The Raggedy Rawney. Still
don't know what to think about it. Have you seen it?
> > >***No. And the title looks completely unfamiliar. So I'm intrigued. Can you
provide some additional info on it, like year, genre, actors etc? I'll try
to find it here.I have not finished this one yet - we got interrupted with all that Thanksgiving commotion. It looks interesting and strange with the actor I love - Bob Hoskins. This is his directing debut. I don't think you need to spend much time looking for this one.
***I have a strong feeling that *good* ones are in the past.
Remember, to me "past" is many, many years ago.
***Current are rather
in more/less *decent* territory. And with my rotten memory I need some more
time to make such a list.***Here are few relatively safe choices. Since you've seen many, these are
most probably familiar, but it's all I can remember now.- Specifics Of Russian National Hunting = Osobennosti russkoj natsional'noj
okhoty. Not a stupid and funny comedy.- Love In A Russian Style (I) = Ljubit' po-russki. Sentimental. Actor playing
avove current average. Slight smell of socialist realism, sorry. If you'll
like it, proceed with II.- Agent Of National Security = translate literally. ;-) Action, but TAKE CARE!
I haven't seen it yet, rec is based on s/h info. I'm going to try it in the
near for 16 tugriks as usual, will keep you informed.Thank you, I copied this list and will give it to my wife. Don't know when we are going to make it to the "Russian" area in Phily, but will try. Lately I have been less than enthusiastic about going there. You see more and more faces you'd rather not see - bandits have finally arrived. Kind of crowd you see by the Botchka joint in Moscow.
***I'll make some further research, but don't hold your breath. I'm really slow
and lazy. Do you remember your request about classics for brass orchestra
@ Music Lane... looooong time ago? I got interested, it turned out that wife
is fan of this music as well, we made (and still make) some search, we've
bought a few LP's and... And I still have no comments. :((( She didn't filed
it yet, and I can't remember all the necessary details myself...***I HATE my memory! Umm... wellll... long ago she heard live... well, it was
something like 'CCCP State Brass Orchestra', conductor was... err... Petroff?
I'm sure, neither Ivanoff, nor Sidoroff.LOL! That is good... Can't fight THAT logic.
***And if memory serves her, they played
Pictures On(Of?:) An Excibition.At.
***Damn. I must drink LESS.
Latest research shows one needs at least a glass of wine a day to stay healthy. Don't let yourself down.
Best of luck,
Victor.
Hi, Victor
< < <
I have not finished this one yet - we got interrupted with all that
Thanksgiving commotion. It looks interesting and strange with the
actor I love - Bob Hoskins. This is his directing debut. I don't think
you need to spend much time looking for this one.
> > >Thank you, I'll try to find it.
> > >
***I have a strong feeling that *good* ones are in the past.Remember, to me "past" is many, many years ago.
< < <Ah-ha! Well, then your choice is considerable wider. Since my memory
still sucks, I'll start with just random two that I saw @ local shop
shelves yesterday:- Adventures of Sherlock Holmes and Doctor Watson. 4 films (or 5?),
Vas. Livanov/Vit. Solomin. Try any, then get the rest if you like it.- Adventures of Prince Florisel. Oleg Dal'. Edgar Poe stories. 2 or 3
films. As above, get a trial (any) one, then the rest. :)To be continued...
> > >
Thank you, I copied this list and will give it to my wife. Don't know
when we are going to make it to the "Russian" area in Phily, but will
try. Lately I have been less than enthusiastic about going there. You
see more and more faces you'd rather not see - bandits have finally
arrived. Kind of crowd you see by the Botchka joint in Moscow.
< < <Are you sure? Say, I cut my hair fairly short and look kinda dangerous
without glasses. Could they be just peaceful programmers with contact
lenses? :)
OTOH if they're *real* bandits, maybe they can "dostat'" you this SVT-40?
> > >
***Damn. I must drink LESS.Latest research shows one needs at least a glass of wine a day to stay
healthy. Don't let yourself down.
< < <Damn! So that's why I feel so bad in my 100% sober days. ;-)
regards, gnat
***Thank you, I'll try to find it.As I mentioned before, it is DEFINITELY worth it. I loved it, my wife even more so. It's got very warm human undertones that are impossible to ignore. And several people play with their faces and voices, not legs or arms.
***Ah-ha! Well, then your choice is considerable wider. Since my memory
still sucks, I'll start with just random two that I saw @ local shop
shelves yesterday:***- Adventures of Sherlock Holmes and Doctor Watson. 4 films (or 5?),
Vas. Livanov/Vit. Solomin. Try any, then get the rest if you like it.***- Adventures of Prince Florisel. Oleg Dal'. Edgar Poe stories. 2 or 3
films. As above, get a trial (any) one, then the rest. :)***To be continued...
Appreciate a lot - whenever yo have a chance, just throw something in the direction ot the US of A. We went to Phily this weekend and rented four movies from your list. Buying three packs of pelmeny also added to trip justification. The Okhota was out. My wife liked the Genius and it was fun to watch good actors in Lubit' po-Russki (the sizes of those breasts were, well, quite unbelievable... no implants there...), she didn't care much for the action. So if you could dig into your "gentle" stock for more drama or commedy with good actors... BTW, did you see one of the latest Yankovski' work, something about two twin systers? I saw a promotion and it looked good, but many of them do.
Kind of crowd you see by the Botchka joint in Moscow.
< < <***Are you sure? Say, I cut my hair fairly short and look kinda dangerous
without glasses. Could they be just peaceful programmers with contact
lenses? :)Yeah, right... Lots of them "programmers" at the Botchka... I've spent enough years in the underbelly of Lygovka and Wyborgskaya to be able to tell a Cobol specialist from Sashka Krivoy.
***OTOH if they're *real* bandits, maybe they can "dostat'" you this SVT-40?
I am afraid they will sooner dostat' me WITH it.
> > >
***Damn. I must drink LESS.Latest research shows one needs at least a glass of wine a day to stay
healthy. Don't let yourself down.
< < <***Damn! So that's why I feel so bad in my 100% sober days. ;-)
Must be hard to go through a typical Moscow day 100% sober...
Stay warm...
Victor.
Hi, Victor
> > >
***Thank you, I'll try to find it.As I mentioned before, it is DEFINITELY worth it. I loved
it, my wife even more so. It's got
very warm human undertones that are impossible to ignore.
And several people play with their
faces and voices, not legs or arms.
< < <That's almost forgotten art, so I'm convinced now. Ohh btw, I couldn't
find *Rawney* in my dictionary as well. Please, translate it po-Russki.
> > >
***To be continued...Appreciate a lot - whenever yo have a chance, just throw something in
the direction ot the US of A.
< < <I hope you don't mind following local TV program - I'll use it's rotation
to refresh my memories. :)
> > >
We went to Phily this weekend and rented four movies from your list.
Buying three packs of pelmeny also added to trip justification. The
Okhota was out. My wife liked the Genius and it was fun to watch good
actors in Lubit' po-Russki (the sizes of those breasts were, well,
quite unbelievable... no implants there...), she didn't care much
for the action.
< < <I felt that nostalgic smell will add some value to Lubit' for you.
Matveev once played Brezhnev btw. :)
> > >
So if you could dig into your "gentle" stock for more drama or commedy
with good actors...
> > >Unfortunately, I can't remember drama now (but there were a few of VERY
good ones in 80th). Working on it...With comedy it's somehow easier. Continue your hunt for Okhota. :) I hope
you have seen the big three: "Garage", "Ironia Sud'by", "Beregis' Avtomobilja".
If not, just get these. Then there was "Hi I'm your aunt" (="Zdravstvujte,
ja vasha tetja").
> > >
BTW, did you see one of the latest Yankovski' work, something about two twin
systers? I saw a promotion and it looked good, but many of them do.
> > >Nope. I haven't even seen the Tzar-killer, though I almost feel how he fits
into Nikolaj II image. Guess I just fear to be disappointed comparing these
to his 80th works. "Munchgausen", "Routine Wonder" (="Obyknovennoje chudo"),
"Two Camerades" (="Dva tovarisha") with Rolan Bykov. I'm sure there are even
better than these, which I forgot. :(
> > >
Kind of crowd you see by the Botchka joint in Moscow.***Are you sure? Say, I cut my hair fairly short and look kinda dangerous
without glasses. Could they be just peaceful programmers with contact
lenses? :)Yeah, right... Lots of them "programmers" at the Botchka... I've spent enough
years in the underbelly of Lygovka and Wyborgskaya to be able to tell a Cobol
specialist from Sashka Krivoy.
< < <These sauruses have different tesauruses, right? Considering Y2K proximity,
I wonder now who is more dangerous?
> > >
***OTOH if they're *real* bandits, maybe they can "dostat'" you this SVT-40?I am afraid they will sooner dostat' me WITH it.
< < <LOL, you're right! I overlooked this risk.
> > >
***Damn. I must drink LESS.Latest research shows one needs at least a glass of wine a day to stay
healthy. Don't let yourself down.***Damn! So that's why I feel so bad in my 100% sober days. ;-)
Must be hard to go through a typical Moscow day 100% sober...
< < <"One drink in the morning - free the whole day". = "Vypil s utra - ves'
den' svoboden".
regards, gnat
And several people play with their
faces and voices, not legs or arms.
< < <***That's almost forgotten art, so I'm convinced now. Ohh btw, I couldn't
find *Rawney* in my dictionary as well. Please, translate it po-Russki.It is predskazatel', or yasnovidets. None of my dictionaries had it, not even the Galperin or Muller. My American associate didn't know it either. The much more common word is 'seer' - it is a synonym.
***I hope you don't mind following local TV program - I'll use it's rotation
to refresh my memories. :)Fine with me, whatever it takes.
***I felt that nostalgic smell will add some value to Lubit' for you.
Matveev once played Brezhnev btw. :)He doesn't need any makeup for that, either. That was my first impression too.
***Unfortunately, I can't remember drama now (but there were a few of VERY
good ones in 80th). Working on it...***With comedy it's somehow easier. Continue your hunt for Okhota. :) I hope
you have seen the big three: "Garage", "Ironia Sud'by", "Beregis' Avtomobilja".
If not, just get these. Then there was "Hi I'm your aunt" (="Zdravstvujte,
ja vasha tetja").Well, I may be young, but I am not THAT young. I saw all of these back in Russia. Fine movies, for sure.
> > >
BTW, did you see one of the latest Yankovski' work, something about two twin
systers? I saw a promotion and it looked good, but many of them do.
> > >***Nope. I haven't even seen the Tzar-killer, though I almost feel how he fits
into Nikolaj II image. Guess I just fear to be disappointed comparing these
to his 80th works. "Munchgausen",Yep, saw this one. Very good.
***"Routine Wonder" (="Obyknovennoje chudo"),
"Two Camerades" (="Dva tovarisha") with Rolan Bykov. I'm sure there are even
better than these, which I forgot. :(Seen all of these. Good.
***These sauruses have different tesauruses, right? Considering Y2K proximity,
I wonder now who is more dangerous?My wife is a programmer with one HUGE financial institution. I suspect more problems have been created while trying to "fix" the potential Y2K ones. Personally, I don't expect much to happen at all.
***Damn! So that's why I feel so bad in my 100% sober days. ;-)Must be hard to go through a typical Moscow day 100% sober...
< < <***"One drink in the morning - free the whole day". = "Vypil s utra - ves'
den' svoboden".It is mostly milk-and-cornflakes in the mornings here.
Speaking of good movies, we saw one more time the Rules of the Game last night. Highly recommended.
How much snow you got so far?
Victor.
Hi, Victor
> > >
***That's almost forgotten art, so I'm convinced now. Ohh btw, I couldn't
find *Rawney* in my dictionary as well. Please, translate it po-Russki.
It is predskazatel', or yasnovidets. None of my dictionaries had it, not
even the Galperin or Muller. My American associate didn't know it either.
The much more common word is 'seer' - it is a synonym.
< < <Or 'providets'... provider? :) Thanx, I feel better now. Hey... Huskins
played in Cotton Club, right?I still can't find it here, but there are two or three BIG shops left
unvisited yet.> > >
***Unfortunately, I can't remember drama now (but there were a few of VERY
good ones in 80th). Working on it...
< < <Ummm... "Winter Cherry" = "Zimnyaya Vishnya". I remember I liked it... but
I forgot, whether it was melo- or just drama. And of course, I forgot
whether it was made in 70s or 80s. :)
> > >
***With comedy it's somehow easier. Continue your hunt for Okhota. :) I hope
you have seen the big three: "Garage", "Ironia Sud'by", "Beregis' Avtomobilja".
If not, just get these. Then there was "Hi I'm your aunt" (="Zdravstvujte,
ja vasha tetja").Well, I may be young, but I am not THAT young. I saw all of these back in Russia. Fine
movies, for sure.
< < <I just had to be sure that you're familiar with *basic* stuff.
Kinda exams... ;-) "Student Khomenko, what did XX congress of
CPSU say about Maxwell theory?"
> > >
My wife is a programmer with one HUGE financial institution. I suspect more
problems have been created while trying to "fix" the potential Y2K ones.
Personally, I don't expect much to happen at all.
< < <I dunno... I'm not a rawney. :) Digital clipping can be extremely
unpleasant in some cases though.
> > >
***"One drink in the morning - free the whole day". = "Vypil s utra - ves'
den' svoboden".It is mostly milk-and-cornflakes in the mornings here.
< < <That's definitely better for day work.
> > >
Speaking of good movies, we saw one more time the Rules of the Game last night. Highly
recommended.
< < <Thank you, it's available here. Just avoid "The Game". :)
> > >
How much snow you got so far?
< < <Not much. A farmer in me feels sad about it.
regards, gnat
.
Hi, Victor
- Thief = Vor. Drama/melodrama. At least an attempt for good scenario
and actor playing.- Genius = Genij. Criminal drama/comedy. Main charachter (Abdulov)
may be interesting for you personally. :)- Criminal Quartet = Kriminalnyj kvartet. Action/drama, actors above
average.- The Rock =... oops! It's made in US, sorry. Well, let it stay, it's not
bad *combinatorial* in the sense defined above. Half-ironical reminiscences
to James Bond almost save it.- Action... combinatorial... yeah, Eliminate the 30 = Tridtsatogo unichtozhit'.
Well, that's careful russian implementation of US standard, I think.
regards, gnat
.
I'm no prude and I've been know to cuss, sometimes frequently (most frequently when designing with a computer - plotters are truly evil, possessed devices), and occasionally the only rational response to some people is f*&# you, but for the most part I find cussing in movies to be gratuitous and a substitution for having to actually come up with intelligent dialog."Every once in a while there is a good new one too."
I don't see that many new movies. Usually see them after they are 2 or 3 years old. Of the movies I consider to be above average that I've seen in the last 3-4 years, only one of them has much cussing in them. To wit: Titantic, Braveheart, Apollo 13. Braveheart is one of only 3 or 4 movies I have on tape and will repeat watch. The fourth movie that springs to mind is older and every other word is a cuss word. "Fear of a Black Hat". A truly funny, low budget flick that parodies the parody "This is Final Tap". Note "Fear" is not a chick flick. Fear is a supposed documentary that follows a rap group on tour. In this context the cussing is sorta realistic as opposed to gratuitous.
If you want to really see an abuse of language watch "Hoffa" sometime. Being a Nicholson fan and a DeVito fan and from a blue collar, union family from Detroit, I was really interested in this movie. There was so much swearing in it I actually was embarrassed and ultimately bored by it.
***Fear is a supposed documentary that follows a rap group on tour. In this context the cussing is sorta realistic as opposed to gratuitous.Shall we say it is a realistic presentation of an extrem case of gratuitous use?
Needless to say, many realistic things hardly deserve to be shown on the screen. Realism is one of the lower forms of art. Unless it is the Social Realism - then it is few nothes below that.
"Shall we say it is a realistic presentation of an extrem case of gratuitous use?"Or an extreme presentation of realistic gratuitous use.
I shouldn't have used the term realistic. As a parody, everything in the movie is over the top. Still, its one of the funniest movies I've seen in years. Definitely not for everybody though. One of those movies I find to be intelligently written yet others would consider "trash" :-)
"Needless to say, many realistic things hardly deserve to be shown on the screen."
Couldn't agree more. Gore and blood come to mind, although as with "Fear" I make an exception for Braveheart. A very gory movie, yet well done.
"Unless it is the Social Realism - then it is few nothes below that."
Showing my ignorance - I'm not sure what you mean by this
Whatever. The official Communist Party sponsored school of art. Basically, the only allowable form for several decades.Amazingly, some artists managed to remain artists even during that era. But mostly many stupid paintings of Lenin and Dzerzhinski in a long menacing coat, workers hammering steel, proletarians fighting capitalists... Trash... you didn't miss much.
.
Speaking of vodka, which is the best? And it sure taste better kept in the
freezer.
Enjoy that Turkey
Rich
***Speaking of vodka, which is the best?I don't know if there is a single best one, but here are some recommendations for tomorrow's diner.
Ignore the Absolute, Finlandia end some such - the Coca-Cola's of vodka. For number of years my personnal favorites have been Polish brands: Wyborowa and Luxusova (sp?). And of course, the old reliable - red label Stolitchnaya.
EXTREMELY recommended is the Pertsovka. It is lower in alcohol (maybe only 60 proof) and with a unique pepper flavor. It is light brown in color and most good stores have it. Try it - you'll love it.
I suspect that that was the ill-fated "Perzovka" in the Razor's Edge. In such case it was very well worth it.
***And it sure taste better kept in the
freezer.That is the best advice. Yes, the freezer, not just the refrigirator. Don't worry, it will not feeze, but will pour like a 20W50 motoroil. It will be much more enjoyable to drink.
Drink it with some good chaser. Pickled herring is traditional, pickled anything (cucumbers, tomatoes, etc.) is great.
And my old-time favorite - hot soup. Can't beat this one.
As far as the wine for turkey - some like the Gewurtz. I always go for a nice young red. Good time to buy it is now.
Enjoy...
Razor's Edge is one of my favorite Tyrone Power films although I did enjoy the remake, too. Nightmare Alley is another good one starring Power(possibly his best performance); haven't seen it in years though because I haven't been able to find it on video.
Victor
If you enjoy his performance, check out Laura. In this day and age of
special effects and mega sound it is wonderful to watch a film that is
dialog driven.
Rich
Can't wait. Had to shell out $2.50 instead of the usual $1 to get it. Well, life can be tough.
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