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In Reply to: "Spider-Man...Special Edition" 2 DVD Set posted by mikenyc on July 16, 2002 at 13:00:15:
What's the point of the second disc? Who really watches all that extra junk?""Spider-Mania": an E! Entertainment Special" - umm, I think I'll just vomit now and save myself the $10.
Assuming that I felt the need to own Spiderman on DVD, I wouldn't pay a penny more for the extra disc.
Do DVD buyers really want all this extra material? Seriously?
I don't mean to sound like a cranky fart, but all the attention spent by the studios on bonus material really bugs me. I wish they just focused on producing a top notch dvd version of the movie with stellar sound and speedy menus. -Oh, and I wish they focused on actually making decent movies, too.
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I never watch anything but the movie in it's original format and original language. Special features, to me, are worthless. These 2 disc sets are made for people like my friend who say things along the lines of "Two DVDs should cost $35 and this Gladiator set is only $27, that's like getting one DVD for less than $10!!! I'd be stupid not to buy it!!!"My friend is a wonderful consumer.
I'd love to buy a stripped down featureless DVD for something like $12 but that will never happen. You have to admit that those marketers know exactly what they are doing.
PS - Do you think it is fair that DVD's cost more than VHS tapes? This irritates me.
What's the point of the second disc? Who really watches all that extra junk?I dunno, perhaps all the people who went to see the movie in the theatres and enjoyed the experience? An additional reason could be exclusive content. Just about any broadband internet user can download most every movie that's in theatres now as well as movies that aren't and waiting video release. It's illegal but it's happening and *anyone* can get *any* movie. As for spider-man specifically, I was able to view one movie file a friend had and the quality was better than VCD and pretty close to DVD (file size was 1.4 gig). It wasn't a shaky "camera-in-the-theatre-audience" type of recording either. The special features could be enough motivation for someone who has the movie file already to go out and purchase the DVD set.
I don't mean to sound like a cranky fart
...but you do.
Tom §.
I don't feel the industry has "pushed the envelope", and pushed the consumer, on the special features function, let alone the interactive possibilities of the DVD interactive technology.I feel there's some resistance, inherent in the consumer, in doing more, than just enjoying, what is really, only now, a passive experience of just viewing a movie. That's too bad, for us, really, because that means we, as the viewer, are not getting that much more out of it, than we did, with a videotape.
Currently, there is only commentary...passive enjoyment, again...
documentary "making of"'s, DVD-rom script to screen, videogaming, DVD commercial links-to-the-internet features.I mean, so what, right ?
We want more for our money, but there is no alure to participating, because we really don't know how to, when it comes down to it.
Hopefully SOMEONE will really push us into the next communications Age...King Crimson did with their "DejaVrooom", but I'm sure only the real life musician or the adventurous, took advantage of those features. What a waste on us numbskulls !!!
Give me the best sound (DTS-ES 6.1 Discrete at 1.5Mbs) and the best video (7.5 Mbs) and to hell with the rest of the crap. Let's get rid of the damn Dolby Digital soundtrack, other languages (ie; in the US, though you'd have a hard time proving it, the language is English -- if you want another language to listen to, move to another country!) and the rest of the filler material, save for the movie trailer. I know it's not gonna happen, but I can still dream...
Joe, I bet don't you ever utter a complaint when you visit France.As for DVDs, I think of it this way:
Most of these overblown DVD sets don't cost more than a single DVD, so it's a real bonus and you're rarely paying more for the bonus stuff. The studio isn't counting on us to pay more for the bonus features; they're banking on more people to buy the movie because it's a more attractive package.
Whatever extra money the studios make on special edition DVDs, it ain't going into a fund for making better films. I don't think the extra money they're making helps or hurt the cause for quality films. But think about what DVD sales may offer: if studios can count on making money off DVDs, it'll be more workable for them to make films for a smaller audience that may need help turning a dollar with video sales instead of just weekend box office grosses.
As for better quality DVDs, moving the extras on a second DVD in theory frees up more space for a better transfer and sound on the first. You could do a superbit-quality transfer on DVD1 *and* all the extras they want to put on DVD2. The DVD engineers do have to walk that line between putting on good features (and I don't mean just E! fluff pieces) and improving the print. I'm talking about director's cuts, extra scenes that the director loved but just couldn't fit into the theatrical version. Big sets allow fewer compromises for the consumer.
It all boils down to whether you like the movie or not. I appreciate getting the bonuses on the second disc of Citizen Kane and my Criterion DVDs. Lots of stuff that I may only watch once, but it's not costing me $10 more. If it's a movie I don't like, who cares! I'm buying it. If it's a movie I love, I get cranky if they don't give it the special 2 DVD treatment, quality print *and* extras.
WHY would I want to go to France?My point is this: if it's going to be a single DVD release, see my post above. If it's going to be a 2-disc release, then put the movie on one disc and the extras on the other.
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