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In Reply to: Re: No. What? posted by Analog Scott on August 05, 2002 at 09:31:39:
"Signs" as an "objective correlative of an internal state".In this case the "objective correlative" being the invasion and presence of the aliens. The aliens are a force to be reckoned with ,which in turn causes the characters to react and resolve an internal conflict.The signs are numerous throught out the film .The most obvious being the crop circles.Also you can interpet the little girls reaction to water as a "psychic sign "or the boys asmathic condition as another "sign" or the brothers inability to hit the ball when he was in the minors as a "sign".But IMO these "signs' are merely plot devices not really what the film is "about".Not to mention the "sign" of the cross which, while not explicitly visualized is of course ,part and parcel of the life of a priest,who as we know is struggling in his life and giving the film the benefit of the doubt, waiting for a "sign" from God .Or at least does interpet the consequences of the invasion as a "sign",and regains his faith.
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damn it..
Sorry if we spoiled things for you but I think if one decides to read a thread that debates the merits of a movie one can expect that some or all of the content of that movie will come up.
LOL.Good one A.S..
Chris
Sounds like a good movie!
Actually those signs, the signs given to Mel Gibson by his dying wife and are scattered throughout this movie and represent our own human flaws and frailty are very much what the movie is all about. It couldn't have been spelled out any more clearly since Mel Gibson pretty much says it. It's about belief. It's about the belief or lack there of in why things happen. Is it all a bunch of coincidences or is there an order and meaning to everything. Mel Gibson because of what seems to be meaningless tragic events looses his faith and chooses not to believe there is meaning or purpose to the events that happen in this world. All those events come together to save the life of his child. He finds his faith and once again chooses to believe there are no coincidences. That belief is the theme of this movie. That the film maker can tell a story of alien invasion on top of this, no intetwinded with all this is what I am talking about when I say this is a multilayered movie. I like that. I like a filmamker who puts careful thought into every element of his films. I like a film maker who can offer up so much rich and organic stuff in his movies and then make me look at those elements again and find another meaning in them.
I THINK WE SAID THE SAME THING ONLY DIFFERENTLY
I think both of you are attributing a depth and thoughtfulness of content that this film simply lacks. It's one thing to plumb the depths. It's quite another to read meaning into something that simply isn't there.
Mel lost his faith and redisovered it courtesty of a few green aliens. And the director telegraphed the process with multiple "signs" scattered throughout the movie. Woopie! Deep.joe
In this case you are simply wrong. It is there. Some folks may not enjoy it but it is there.
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