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In Reply to: Nic Cage... posted by gware on August 10, 2002 at 05:07:40:

It took him so long to get upto speed IMHO. I don't think he became a 3D character until "Trapped In Paradise" and/or "Guarding Tess". Before that he was some lost pathetic relentlessly "coming of age" clueless loser. He seemed so contrived. I began wondering why he was still getting parts but he came into his own.
PS: I did like "Rock" & "Con Air" after "Leaving Los Vegas". Even though those 2 weren't as challenging, I'd prefer owning "Rock" & "Con Air" since I'd like to see them again & again. However, Steve Buscemi & Sean Connery are contributing factors.
... just my 2�
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Here is a list of some of his earlier work--shows his depth and ability.... - Mrs. Piggy 09:27:22 08/10/02 (11)
Birdy (1984)
Peggy Sue Got Married (1986)
Raising Arizona (1987)
Vampire's Kiss (1989)
Wild at Heart (1990)
Bringing out the Dead (1999)
mp
- Re: Here is a list of some of his earlier work--shows his depth and ability.... - KathleenMuVLvr 11:06:52 08/14/02 (1)
  What about Leaving Las Vegas?! That was one of his best dramas.
  - Boy, do I agree with you but I was refering to his earlier work.... - Mrs. Piggy 09:14:46 08/15/02 (0)
    but then I forgot and included Bringing out the Dead (it really touched me, that one!).
    I have included that one and talked about it on another recent post.
    (the one where I affirm my belief that Nicolas Cage IS a an actor who portrays 3D images).
    sorry for the confusion.
    mp
- "Vampire's Kiss" is a - tinear 00:26:51 08/11/02 (1)
  classic (his spiral down nicely presages his future work in ..."Vegas"). But Vic's problem is he talks like he has an IQ of seventy. Perhaps he possesses an intellect of Hawking's magnitude--it doesn't matter. Film is a visual medium...he looks and acts dumb. Big problem with "The Rock?" Nic ain't a believable scientist. His persona is a blue-collar working guy, when he goes beyond...he ain't got the acting chops to portray what nature didn't actually give him. He and Keanu are kind of similar in that respect. Do you believe Reaves had the ego to actually play "Hamlet" in Canada? At least Nic has some modesty.
  - you'd think Keanu learned his lesson with "Much Ado About Nothing" - Mart 04:47:33 08/11/02 (0)
    However, "Walk In The Clouds" was a surprise. It still wasn't a compelling performance but he didn't stink up the movie & it was a perfect format for him to do so.
    ... just my 2� � moderate Mart � �
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- precisely my point - Mart 14:05:03 08/10/02 (6)
  He seemed so "phone it in" on many of those films IMHO. That is whenever he just wasn't completely over his head & came off as some 2D caricature on the material. That's why I was always wondering why he was still getting roles when he did so poorly on those IMHO.
  I admit as to only seeing half those films since the ones I saw were so poor (poor = Raising Arizona). So, I had no compulsion to subject myself through any more.
  as always YMMV
  ... just my 2�
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  - But some of the roles he's playing are "2d" caricature characters.... - Mrs. Piggy 17:03:23 08/10/02 (5)
    See Vampires Kiss, or Birdy, or bringing out the dead, then we'll talk.
    Vampires Kiss is about a man who is severely physchologicaly disturbed--he thinks he is a vampire--he seeks treatment, but his life spirals out of control--a real sleeper hit.
    Also Raising Arizona is a classic! His acting was tailor made for that role wether you like the style or content of that comedy or not.
    But I agree he is horrible in action adventure movies--not believable.
    Come on dude, didn't you see Leaving Las Vegas--that was 2d!!???
    That show had such an impact on my brother, he couldn't even talk about it for months, it triggered a minor depression.
    And bringing out the dead-wow, what a film, what a powerful message.
    mp
    - don't remember seeing BOTD or VKor Birdy - Mart 18:00:26 08/10/02 (4)
      but "Raising Arizona" & "Leaving Los Vegas" were indeed pathetic wastes of time. Talk about "2D caricatures"!!! One would have to be heavy meds to sit through them IME. Although, "Leaving Los Vegas" was hillarious. However, I suspect it was unintended like "Attack of the Killer Tomatoes". I felt bad for Nic having to endure that embarrassment.
      
      ... just my 2� � moderate Mart � �
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      - Maybe the guy just rubs you the wrong way?-nt - Mrs. Piggy 19:51:53 08/10/02 (3)
        
        In Reply to: don't remember seeing BOTD or VKor Birdy posted by mart on August 10, 2002 at 18:00:26:
        
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        naw, like I said he eventually came into his own after those flops _ <NT> - Mart 22:23:56 08/10/02 (2)
        
        In Reply to: Maybe the guy just rubs you the wrong way?-nt posted by Mrs. Piggy on August 10, 2002 at 19:51:53:
        
        ... just my 2� � moderate Mart � �
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        I found Guarding Tess to be one of his worst films -nt - Mrs. Piggy 22:36:08 08/10/02 (1)
        
        In Reply to: naw, like I said he eventually came into his own after those flops _ posted by mart on August 10, 2002 at 22:23:56:
        
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        do you have a problem with 3D characters? - Mart 22:44:05 08/10/02 (0)
        
        In Reply to: I found Guarding Tess to be one of his worst films -nt posted by Mrs. Piggy on August 10, 2002 at 22:36:08:
        
        You seem to admire the his films I find tragically shallow of depth & ludicrously predictable & gratefully forgettable. As always YMMV ...
        ... just my 2� � moderate Mart � �
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