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In Reply to: A Testament to the Power of Film posted by clarkjohnsen on August 21, 2002 at 14:30:26:
Well, I certainly must have struck a nerve! BTW, it would've been nice if Mr. Johnsen had included the openning and closing sentences (i.e., in entirity) from the post he excised my comment from. No matter, he got the context pretty close, so I won't take issue with that portion of his manifesto.The most important aspect of the film about Dr. Death is that it's a DOCUMENTARY, as others have patiently pointed out on more than one occasion to Clark. The fact that Mr. Johnsen may have read "The Robin Leach Report" or whatever (FYI, that's sarcasm, Clark) doesn't negate the value of face to face interviews and opinions expressed by Dr. Morris's peers on camera.
No offense to Clark, but it saddens me that he has the apparent need to denigrate the knowledge of other inmates. I doubt that Mr. Johnsen knows what others have or haven't read, researched or experienced, but he seems quite content throwing mud on someone else's canvas and proclaiming that only now is it an inspired masterpiece.
It occurs to me that if Mr. Johnsen feels so strongly about discussing The Leuchter Report rather than the documentary film, he'd prefer taking this discussion Outside where the politics of the issue would be front and center. However, Mrs. Piggy originally asked about the filmed documentary which is more suited as a topic here.
FTR, I actually agree with Clark about the execrable Pearl Harbor, a film which may actually define "the meaning of revisionism," but what that has to do with the more valid fictional entertainment value of AI Artificial Intelligence is beyond me.
AuPh (aka Mr. A. Philanderer to our misguided friend Clark)
Follow Ups:
Not a need! I was simply pointing out that you seemed to have no knowledge outside the guided confines of the "documentary". Indeed that does now appear to be the case.Was I off-topic? Shivver me timbers, that's never happened *here* before! However, I must inform you that my initial comment, which so raised everyone's hackles, had to do with an indefinite antecedent in someone's post. It was simply a wry interpretation of unclear writing.
clark
For my views on "documentaries" see
Your research; your sources, are any first hand? Were you an observer during the Holocaust? Of course not! You rely on the written word and photographic evidence provided by experts and testamonies of survivors. FYI, film documentaries are no more prone to inaccuracies and biases than published opinions. I'm not intimating that there aren't biased or fictionalized documentaries produced, but filtering is part of the process of acquiring useful information. Conversely, refusal to view ANY potential source of information is anathema to the process of "broadening knowledge."While we're on this subject, one more point begs consideration: Agendas, speculations and biases may be present in print sources just as they are in film. Reading a scholorly treatise is no guarantee that one is going to be provided with a clearer picture of events just because the reader wants to believe it. OTOH, film documenteries CAN and often do get to the heart of issues in ways that print media can't, as on-camera interviews convey physical behaviors that transcend words.
> > > "Was I off-topic? Shivver me timbers, that's never happened *here* before! However, I must inform you that my initial comment, which so raised everyone's hackles, had to do with an indefinite antecedent in someone's post. It was simply a wry interpretation of unclear writing." < < <
*Indefinite antecedent!* LOL! Is that your ergot infected rye interpretation? ;^)
AuPh
And with that obtuse digression, our Mr. A. Philanderer bids farewell to rational discussion.clark
PS The "indefinite antecedent" was "they".
...obviously being facetious (and no, that doesn't mean he was wearing tacky uniforms and goose stepping).You weren't even an observer of the documentary in question, yet you are "someone who has studied the" -oh,wait, I'm laughing again - "entire background." Oh, there's that giggle creeping in again...
KP
and your running circles around him, he won't get it. I think you give him way too much credit. Sometimes it's difficult for intellectual people to understand that there are some who are incapable of grasping a concept in a logical way.As my dad would say, I think Clark is talking to hear his "head roar."
By the way,
I admire your intellect and your tenacity.mp
IMHO, Clark likes to push buttons, but when things get heated he reminds me of a little kid who sets off a stink bomb in class then tries to pretend it's the other guy's fault. I've found that humor is the best defuser of errant stink-bombers. :o)> > > "I admire your intellect and your tenacity." < < <
You are too kind, but I guess I am a bit tenacious; it comes from going long rounds with Clark & others debating various political issues Outside. The Film Asylum is rarely as contentious.
Cheers,
AuPh
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