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In Reply to: What the hell has happened to Hollywood? posted by mvwine on September 24, 2002 at 07:01:53:
i've only seen a couple of films that had hollywood remakes. when i did see both versions of the film, the original and the remake, what amazed me was how good the original was, and how bad the remake was.it defies logic that someone would take something and make it worse. so that in itself says alot. it is history for us to understand.
an example would be the movie "cape fear".
the original cape fear was a truly exciting and frightening picture. there is no more frightening screen individual than robert mitchum. he was natural for the role.
the later version, almost 30 years later, was a pathetic film. robert de niro had to "do" things, to try to make the character appear dangerous, and it was a complete failure by comparison.
i know this simple truth. not everything is improving in our society. not everything is evolving. alot is lost also as our society develops.
there are also certain time periods in which certain achievements can not be duplicated. it just cannot be done, no matter what. energy and whatever other factors are involved.
an example of this to me is the miles davis era jazz of the 50's, with "kind of blue" and other stuff at the time. even at a later time in his life, miles could not do what he previously had done.
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The Out-of-towners (Dennis and Lemmon) Why on earth did anyone think that Hawn and Martin could carry that crappy remake? It does defy logic. Planet of the Apes was MUCH WORSE that it's mediocre predicesor.mp
Man, they come out of woodwork...But the unforgettable Knife in the Water deserves special mention, as the remake was so utterly ridiculous, so incredibly American-atrocious (Nicole Kidman, nuff said...)
Only a complete idiot would remake the locally well known film - witness the Out-of-Towners. Smart idiots remake the films that are generally not known to the local public, but been a success in some "underdeveloped" part of the world, therefore getting more chance to look original.Scent of a Woman... Three Men and an Cradle... and who could forget the pinnacle of the horrible, horrible remakes, the atrocicous "The Return of Richard Gere".
scent of a woman-- that's the other movie i was trying to think of the name. i was incorrectly thinking 'postman'.the italian original is really a great film, and the remake is a joke.
and you would not realize how bad the remakes are if you haven't seen the originals. that's the key. a point of reference.
the problem here too is art versus technology. technological advancement may advance things a bit, but technology cannot make better art.
for example. say that crime and punishment is the greatest novel ever written, which i believe it is considered. no amount of technology is going to give an author a chance to make a better novel.
film is the same way.
you did not have to see the original to know "Scent of a Woman" was a bad movie. Al Pacino is one of the worst overactors around unless the director reigns him in (Coppola in "Godfather" for example).
I gave at the office!
I would not call the original Scent a great movie - it was Vittorio's vehicle, very enjoyable, but with some weak moments. But his presence was incredible and there is no way in Hell Al Pacino could match his charisma.I was never able to finish the Crime, but the Russians had made a pretty good film based on it with one of the Russian great actors - Smoktunovsky.
you are right. not a great film, but very, very enjoyable. if i can remember, beautiful. and the actor was remarkable.and if i remember the remake with al pacino, he was more frantic and trying it seemed to be like the other actor, but he was only able to pick up one piece, one aspect of how the original actor was, and he exaggerated it cause that's all he had.
You are right. I have seen many beautiful French films mangled by American directors.mp
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