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In Reply to: Re: The audience did posted by SR on September 24, 2002 at 21:58:12:
at the time, Star Wars appeared to be a watershed event. I still remember the LINES as I have never seen them before around the theatres. Hell, I liked it myself, and I still do. But it marked the beginning of the end.In fact, I attribute the decline and fall of the entire world on Star Wars. Hollywood got a taste of BIG MONEY, and their rush to create eye candy style movies totally overwhelmed any efforts towards art or deeper entertainment.
This mindset spills over into world-wide distributed media, and pretty soon there are Osama Bin Laden's hating the USA and wanting to kill it.
So, were I to invent a time machine, I would go back in time and prevent Star Wars from ever happening. I would place good money that the World Trade Center would still be standing.
Randy
It is only with the heart that one can see rightly. What is essential is invisible to the eye. - Antoine De Saint-Exupery
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By the time it came out the water has already been tested by 2001.In terms of demonstrating the public's willingness to swallow big white elephant, it was already clear by the time the SW was rolled out.
What the Star Wars did was to show that once you adapt that simplistic mentality, no high art is required anymore. There is no need for Kubrick and his search for new forms - a simple cookie cutter will work. While the 2001 was - OK, arguably! - a thought provoking film, the SW was nothing but visual kaka, a chemical, with the viewer's brain now simply sending the data (notice - DATA, not even information) from the eyes into the arms and legs, the stomach and bladder - time to get more popcorn, time to pee....
From that point it all accelerated, and today we see the prolifiration of dreck in that format produced every month - all those idiotic shooting creatures abound. Today it probably takes just a few month to "assemble" another Star Trooper, or Lost in Space, or whatever the name of that crap is.
Victor,I respectfully, but totally, disagree with your assesment of Star Wars. Not high art, but hardly empty. A film as empty as the one you portray - a filmic video game - would not have brought me back to the theater over 25 times to see it (when I was young and it first came out). The legions of Star Wars fans the series inspired are hardly mindless (they think a little TOO much, methinks).
Despite cynical wisdom, Special Effects in of themselves are rarely enough to give a film legs. There are countless films that have been special effects heavy, but which have been abandoned by audiences for lack of compelling characters or plot. For many viewers, Star Wars had heart...characters they wanted to see again and again, and a coherent, cogent fantasy world in which to escape.
A lot of people blame Jaws for the same reasons they pile on Star Wars. But I saw Jaws more times than I can count because, long after the scares and gore had lost their impact, the characters, locations and story remained vital and compelling.
Many people have theories about the decline of hollywood, and usually these theories start with a completely subjective reaction to a film.
"I hated this popular film....therefore it's responsible for everything bad that has come since..."I don't buy it.
Rich H.
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