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In Reply to: Re: Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon posted by caa on October 07, 2002 at 10:56:46:
When I asked for recommendations for other movies if one liked CTHD.I tried some Jet Li and some Jackie Chan movies so far. I'm not sure there is anything I've enjoyed like CTHD though.
I thought Iron Monkey definitely paled in comparison as I also tried that one as someone else gave a recommendation for one to try.
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If I ever placed Jet Li or Jackie Chan movies in the same level as CTHD, it's unintentional. CTHD while not to everyone's taste is much better in terms of cinematography, etc... And it's not even the same. Chan and Li's movies have specific commercial objectives. I'm not at all a fan of either. Martial arts without "context" looks really odd. It works quite similarly to Lord of the Rings in that the setting is so right that you just yield unconditionally to imagination. Taking that out of proper "context" and settings will result in horrible copies. This is why the remake of Planet of the Apes couldn't evoke the same feelings as the originalHere, It's not the martial arts that entertains, it's the imagination; it's the arts in martial arts. CTHD is a beautiful film, the first and only (thus far) recommendable film of an interesting genre.
A Chinese Ghost Story can challenge CTHD as the best film of its genre. If I have to choose the most entertaining film I have seen, A Chinese Ghost Story get my vote. This film could have been a succes at the box office if only at that time (1987), peoples had a more open mind about foreigh films. So good that it was even shown at my High School theater.2 upcoming films from 2 of the most favorite director among movie lovers could be as good as CTHD... and with the hottest chinese actors and actress.
- HERO, by director Zhang Yimou, the score by Tan Dun (CTHD), cinematrographer Chis Doyle (Wong Kar-wai's cinematrographer), starring Jet Li, Zizi Zhang (CTHD), Donnie Yen (Iron Monkey), Tony Leung & Maggie Cheung (In the Mood for Love), from what I hear it seems this is going to be a jackpot... and Zhang Yimou have never made a bad movie. Danm, I can't wait to see this film. Sorry Gang of New York, Hero is now on top of my must see list.
- 2046, by director Wong Kar-Wai, produce by Zhang Yimou, starring Zizi Zhang, Tony Leung, Maggie cheung,BTW, I just saw Flying Dragon, Leaping Tiger, featuring Samo Hung and Chen Pei-Pei (aka Jade Fox). Too bad, the subtitles is not in english, so I forget it for now and it doesn't seems that good.
HERO, it seems, is a very promising film.Zhang Yimou directed the great "Raising the Red Lantern".
Christ Doyle made "In The Mood for Love" simply beautiful.
Donnie Yen is a good actor. I saw him demonstrate martial arts a few years back in Boston. I like him most in the long TV series, "Fist of Fury"; a nice tribute, though much better and longer than Bruce Lee's "the Chinese Connection".
Tony Leung is quite capable. I liked him when he played a eunich. But his most memorable performance is in "Heaven Sword, Dragon Blade", adapted from a great novel. He was also great in "In the mood for love", such a beautiful and great souding film.
Overall, I like the western influence on Chinese films. First, it's the money; the more, the better the quality as a result. Second, its positive influence is similar to the way that European influence has on Korean soccer in that I think most Chinese actors have great potential and they just need to be pushed differently.
Budget: 30 millions, that's a lot of money for a asian film.
Action director: Ching Sui-Tung ( the director of A Chinese Ghost Story).
Costume designer Emi Wada, who worked with Akira Kurosawa for Ran and Yume.Comments:
Southern City reports many people who saw the rough cut have thrown some very good words on it and said HERO was a new height of Zhang Yimou's career.
"This is definitely an Oscar contender!! A movie worth watching more than once.A Visual feast for the eyes, Great Sound effects, Powerful acting and a very interesting storyline. Not to forget the beautiful settings."
"HERO will inevitably be compared to CROUCHING TIGER HIDDEN DRAGON. It bears the same feeling of melancholy, and its fight scenes could easily be mistaken for each other"
Not available anywhere for rental. Perhaps netflix but I don't plan to deal with that.I have seen Chinese Ghost Story mentioned quite a few times in searches I have done on this board for some info and probably will break down and buy it. Some suggested that they liked The Bride with White Hair and I thought about that one also.
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