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• Enough. That says it all. - Allan 10:43:46 10/10/02 (3)
  In Reply to: 3 hollywood films, enough, scorpion king, panic room posted by njjohn on October 08, 2002 at 20:31:04:

  When I saw JLo (or was it Mariah Carey - they all look the same to me) donning the gloves, I put it back on the shelf. Badass women just don't do a thing for me:-)
  
  

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  • Only a badass at the end..... - dado5 12:31:22 10/10/02 (2)
    In Reply to: Enough. That says it all. posted by Allan on October 10, 2002 at 10:43:46:

    And it was a great fight scene, albeit completely one sided.

    Rent it and jump to this scene.....it's worth it.

    
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    • Re: Only a badass at the end..... - Allan 13:58:14 10/10/02 (1)
      In Reply to: Only a badass at the end..... posted by dado5 on October 10, 2002 at 12:31:22:

      I don't know Rob, I really have had enough of this month's losers...it all started with Frailty:-)

      OTOH, I had a good laugh with the Tim Allen comedy released this week - two days after I see it, I've forgotten the title which probably tells you something. It had its moments.
      
      

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      • Yeah but with this one youow for sure who the demon is.... - dado5 16:03:05 10/10/02 (0)
        In Reply to: Re: Only a badass at the end..... posted by Allan on October 10, 2002 at 13:58:14:

        so the righteous violence is justified.

        Enough is not an awful film. You really do feel the fear and frustration on the part of the fleeing mother. I actually think Ms. Lopez is a decent actress...better than some of the other mega-stars frankly. The end is really worthwhile. IMO, they should have kept the hand to hand combat thing a secret when they promoted the film.
        I mean of course we expect him to get it in the end, but it traditonally has been the rescuing male with a gun, or the accidental turning into the knife or some such. This one was deliberate, planned, mono e mono, pugilistic revenge. That is a first as far as I know and it worked well, I thought. JLo is pysically beefy enough to make you believe she can do it, and she does it with a good dose of attitude to boot. I think you will enjoy it.

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• I would call it.... - Mrs. Piggy 14:30:17 10/09/02 (11)
  In Reply to: 3 hollywood films, enough, scorpion king, panic room posted by njjohn on October 08, 2002 at 20:31:04:

  Girl Power Films. The first good one I remember is Extremities with Farah Faucett.

  Female exploitation implies the female in the picture is being exploited--but we know the ones being exploited is the audience:o)

  No seriously--I see the films you describe to be more female empowering---and I see Female exploitation films to be more gratuitous to only the male population, for example the twisted all girl prison movies (with male guards). You would never call an Arnold S. film male exploitation (even with the bulging oily muscles).

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  • Well said. - dado5 07:46:55 10/10/02 (1)
    In Reply to: I would call it.... posted by Mrs. Piggy on October 09, 2002 at 14:30:17:

    Women are often told to cower and submit in the face of assault (my favorite is telling women to deliberately soil themselves so as to repulse the attacker…has this ever worked?). Women have every moral right to defend themselves with force, just as much as any man. I say bravo to these films for showing that.

    BTW, I was just tickled watching J-Lo taunt her husband with those face slaps....Very male ego deflating.
    Rob
    
    

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    • I don't neccessarily believe that one must.... - Mrs. Piggy 18:12:14 10/10/02 (0)
      In Reply to: Well said. posted by dado5 on October 10, 2002 at 07:46:55:

      degrade males to uplift the female gender. It just feels good sometimes! HIIIIIIYA (said Blossom, Bubbles and Buttercup).

      And of course I'm just kidding--I never beat on my KP (even if he deserves it!)

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  • Re: I would call it.... - njjohn 15:59:13 10/09/02 (8)
    In Reply to: I would call it.... posted by Mrs. Piggy on October 09, 2002 at 14:30:17:

    i heard the term 'blackexploitation' films, and i never knew the meaning why, but i assumed incorrectly perhaps, that it intended to manipulate feelings, to give a sense of empowerment, or whatever.

    so that's the only reason i picked that term.

    but then you are perfectly right that so many of these hollywood films are really all about that. in these films we win over bad guys, we win over the corrupot gov't, we win over everybody through the hero. i remember it said that the sylvestor stallone movie where he wins in vietnam was purposely done to exploit that situation.

    so i guess the whole society, both male and females are impotent, and feel powerless, and these movies provide us with a fix. and i appreciate you mentioning it.

    and i sure did enjoy that woman giving it to her husband, so that kind of anger when someone transgresses all boundaries of fairness, is not sex specific to the sex of the victim.

    it is a little ridiculous though that all these types of situations have to end in violence and revenge. 'enough' was a hollywood ending, but also a forgone plot and conclusion. imagine a real story line. imagine after she told her mother-in-law how she got the bruise on her face, and the mother-in-law stating that 'what did you do to deserve that!', that that is where a real life drama began.

    thanks for the 'lantana' recommendation. i will check to see if the local stores have it.
    
    

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    • You want to see a wife give it to her husband.... - Mrs. Piggy 18:26:18 10/09/02 (7)
      In Reply to: Re: I would call it.... posted by njjohn on October 09, 2002 at 15:59:13:

      check out The Burning Bed with Farah Faucett. OUCH!

      For Years, when my mom would have a "tiff" with my dad, she would say "that's OK honey, you just go on to bed--wink wink" They were weird like that--married 35 years--and then got divorced in their mid fifties--go figure.

      
      

      
      
      
      
      

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      • Re: You want to see a wife give it to her husband.... - darkstar 05:22:30 10/10/02 (1)
        In Reply to: You want to see a wife give it to her husband.... posted by Mrs. Piggy on October 09, 2002 at 18:26:18:

        so they married when they were 15?
        Randy

        
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        • Re: You want to see a wife give it to her husband.... - Mrs. Piggy 09:08:04 10/10/02 (0)
          In Reply to: Re: You want to see a wife give it to her husband.... posted by darkstar on October 10, 2002 at 05:22:30:

          OK Dr Darkstar---I'm a teacher, so I will take the liberty---
          55 minus 35 is 20, and that's when they were married give or take a year!

          :o)
          You must be having a blah day--but I will tell you, you had me really worried for a second---for a SECOND!

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      • happiness - njjohn 19:06:20 10/09/02 (4)
        In Reply to: You want to see a wife give it to her husband.... posted by Mrs. Piggy on October 09, 2002 at 18:26:18:

        probably the dad didn't fully realize the value of the mom, i don't know. you're never too old to make a mistake.

        have you seen the fairly recent movie, 'happiness'? that's an intersting film. i don't know if anyone is happy in it. two of the characters are the mom and the dad, i guess in their fifties. quite interesting characters especially the dad.
        
        

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        • Re: happiness: a brilliant movie, - tinear 19:01:45 10/12/02 (1)
          In Reply to: happiness posted by njjohn on October 09, 2002 at 19:06:20:

          but soooo hard to watch. Has any film handled a tougher subject so unflinchingly, with no easy answers? And so many unforgettable characters: the chubby guy slobbering over the icy neighbor babe; the psycho fatty; the daffy sister; the lecherous dad, etc. I think one of the best films I've seen in years.
          
          

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          • Excuse me kind sir... - Mrs. Piggy 19:28:48 10/12/02 (0)
            In Reply to: Re: happiness: a brilliant movie, posted by tinear on October 12, 2002 at 19:01:45:

            but Mrs. "Piggy" says "fatty" is unkind. You should use the term "weight challenged" Ha ha--you think that's funny---mark my words---that will be the new PC term (the way things are going).

            But seriously:
            It is DEFINATELY the darkest comedy I have ever seen. The way the "perfect wife" deals with her sister (the less than perfect one who falls in the clutches of that strange Russian immigrant) is so quietly horrendous! And the fear of death in the parents is palpable.

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        • Hey synchronicity... - Mrs. Piggy 19:29:25 10/09/02 (1)
          In Reply to: happiness posted by njjohn on October 09, 2002 at 19:06:20:

          I posted, just a wee bit ago, about that very title and gave a brief description. It is with the best movie titles post...check it out and see if I'm on the money?

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          • synchronicity... - njjohn 02:54:51 10/10/02 (0)
            In Reply to: Hey synchronicity... posted by Mrs. Piggy on October 09, 2002 at 19:29:25:

            it had to be the mom-dad issue that caused the synchronicity.

            after you wrote in this thread, you went right on to mention the title in the other thread. and after i read your post in this thread, that movie came to mind.

            i agree, it was a very good film. a touch raw in it's exposure but very well done.
            
            

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• I know, I know, but....... - dado5 08:52:31 10/09/02 (0)
  In Reply to: 3 hollywood films, enough, scorpion king, panic room posted by njjohn on October 08, 2002 at 20:31:04:

  Can you honestly say you did not love seeing Ms. Lopez's character kick the shit out of her husband? Ya knew it was going to happen (cause they gave it away in the trailers), but it was still viscerally very satisfying watching the bully get trashed by his victim. Made sitting through the rest of the flck worthwile.

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• Next time, rent Lantana, the best Australian picture of the year - LeeP 06:21:07 10/09/02 (0)
  In Reply to: 3 hollywood films, enough, scorpion king, panic room posted by njjohn on October 08, 2002 at 20:31:04:

  Lantana is the latest very good film I have rented. I won't anylyse this film, I never do that. All I could say after watching a film, if it's good or not, and Lantana deserve to be watch. Geoffrey Rush (Elisabeth, Quills, Shine) star in this film.

  if you like good drama with interesting characters, this is for you. If you like only Star War, MIB, Jurassic Park, forget it.

  
  
  

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