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In Reply to: 3 hollywood films, enough, scorpion king, panic room posted by njjohn on October 08, 2002 at 20:31:04:
Girl Power Films. The first good one I remember is Extremities with Farah Faucett.Female exploitation implies the female in the picture is being exploited--but we know the ones being exploited is the audience:o)
No seriously--I see the films you describe to be more female empowering---and I see Female exploitation films to be more gratuitous to only the male population, for example the twisted all girl prison movies (with male guards). You would never call an Arnold S. film male exploitation (even with the bulging oily muscles).
mp
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Women are often told to cower and submit in the face of assault (my favorite is telling women to deliberately soil themselves so as to repulse the attacker…has this ever worked?). Women have every moral right to defend themselves with force, just as much as any man. I say bravo to these films for showing that.BTW, I was just tickled watching J-Lo taunt her husband with those face slaps....Very male ego deflating.
Rob
degrade males to uplift the female gender. It just feels good sometimes! HIIIIIIYA (said Blossom, Bubbles and Buttercup).And of course I'm just kidding--I never beat on my KP (even if he deserves it!)
mp
i heard the term 'blackexploitation' films, and i never knew the meaning why, but i assumed incorrectly perhaps, that it intended to manipulate feelings, to give a sense of empowerment, or whatever.so that's the only reason i picked that term.
but then you are perfectly right that so many of these hollywood films are really all about that. in these films we win over bad guys, we win over the corrupot gov't, we win over everybody through the hero. i remember it said that the sylvestor stallone movie where he wins in vietnam was purposely done to exploit that situation.
so i guess the whole society, both male and females are impotent, and feel powerless, and these movies provide us with a fix. and i appreciate you mentioning it.
and i sure did enjoy that woman giving it to her husband, so that kind of anger when someone transgresses all boundaries of fairness, is not sex specific to the sex of the victim.
it is a little ridiculous though that all these types of situations have to end in violence and revenge. 'enough' was a hollywood ending, but also a forgone plot and conclusion. imagine a real story line. imagine after she told her mother-in-law how she got the bruise on her face, and the mother-in-law stating that 'what did you do to deserve that!', that that is where a real life drama began.
thanks for the 'lantana' recommendation. i will check to see if the local stores have it.
check out The Burning Bed with Farah Faucett. OUCH!For Years, when my mom would have a "tiff" with my dad, she would say "that's OK honey, you just go on to bed--wink wink" They were weird like that--married 35 years--and then got divorced in their mid fifties--go figure.
so they married when they were 15?
Randy
It is only with the heart that one can see rightly. What is essential is invisible to the eye. - Antoine De Saint-Exupery
OK Dr Darkstar---I'm a teacher, so I will take the liberty---
55 minus 35 is 20, and that's when they were married give or take a year!:o)
You must be having a blah day--but I will tell you, you had me really worried for a second---for a SECOND!mp
probably the dad didn't fully realize the value of the mom, i don't know. you're never too old to make a mistake.have you seen the fairly recent movie, 'happiness'? that's an intersting film. i don't know if anyone is happy in it. two of the characters are the mom and the dad, i guess in their fifties. quite interesting characters especially the dad.
but soooo hard to watch. Has any film handled a tougher subject so unflinchingly, with no easy answers? And so many unforgettable characters: the chubby guy slobbering over the icy neighbor babe; the psycho fatty; the daffy sister; the lecherous dad, etc. I think one of the best films I've seen in years.
but Mrs. "Piggy" says "fatty" is unkind. You should use the term "weight challenged" Ha ha--you think that's funny---mark my words---that will be the new PC term (the way things are going).But seriously:
It is DEFINATELY the darkest comedy I have ever seen. The way the "perfect wife" deals with her sister (the less than perfect one who falls in the clutches of that strange Russian immigrant) is so quietly horrendous! And the fear of death in the parents is palpable.mp
I posted, just a wee bit ago, about that very title and gave a brief description. It is with the best movie titles post...check it out and see if I'm on the money?mp
it had to be the mom-dad issue that caused the synchronicity.after you wrote in this thread, you went right on to mention the title in the other thread. and after i read your post in this thread, that movie came to mind.
i agree, it was a very good film. a touch raw in it's exposure but very well done.
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