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In Reply to: Solaris remake posted by groovenoter on October 14, 2002 at 22:00:30:

Spend your money on the Critereon Editon DVD which will be coming out shortly...and then see Soderbergh's take on it. You won't be disappointed.

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Re: Solaris...the original - groovenoter 05:44:04 10/15/02 (4)
Thanks. I did actually see the original in a cinema in the UK many many years ago. I was in my teens and found it pretty heavy going. I can't say I remember very much about the film so maybe I'll check out the Criterion.
- Re: Solaris...the original...the Criterion Collection release - mikenyc 23:05:52 10/15/02 (3)
  Courtesy of criterion.com....
  
  Coming Soon!
  Film Info
  1972
  169 minutes
  Color/Black and white
  2.35:1
  Dolby Digital Mono 1.0
  Anamorphic
  Russian
  Release Info
  Catalog Number:
  SOL070
  ISBN:
  0-78002-607-1
  UPC:
  0-37429-1721-2-4
  SRP: $39.95
  
  Special Features
  DISC ONE:
  New digital transfer, enhanced for widescreen televisions
  Audio essay by Tarkovsky scholars Vida Johnson and Graham Petrie, co-authors of The Films of Andrei Tarkovsky: A Visual Fugue
  New and improved English subtitle translation
  Optimal image quality: RSDL dual-layer edition
  DISC TWO:
  Nine deleted and alternate scenes
  Video interviews with lead actress Natalya Bondarchuk, cinematographer Vadim Yusov, art director Mikhail Romadin, and composer Eduard Artemyev
  Documentary excerpt with Solaris author Stanislaw Lem
  
  http://criterionco.com/asp/release.asp?id=164§ion=feature
  - Re: The Killer-..the original...the Criterion Collection release - Jane 09:22:54 12/15/02 (1)
    Where can I get this without paying over the roof.
    Jane
    - Re: The Killer...and "Contempt" - mikenyc 10:55:54 12/15/02 (0)
      Probably amazon.com
      And it is a KILLER, along with the 2dvd issue of "Contempt" !!
  - Thanks for the info. (NT). - groovenoter 20:47:56 10/16/02 (0)
LOL! Yep, IMHO, that's one way to insure he'll enjoy the remake more than the original film! :o) - Audiophilander 05:12:06 10/15/02 (19)
It seems like I read somewhere that even Stanislaw Lem, author of Solaris, didn't care for the 1st movie; of course, some people love it's slow contemplative style and I'm not knocking anyone's tastes, but I found it to be sort of like trying to watch paint drying (i.e., it's like watching a drawing room comedy without the comedy!).
AuPh
- This is the season to warm up your Hollywood heart... more remakes - Victor Khomenko 07:41:56 10/15/02 (9)
  Forget about the Solaris - you WILL get what you are looking for in the new one, I am sure. We had beaten that horse already long enough, so just enjoy your cup of tea.
  But how about the remake of one of the most hilarious movies in history - "Swept Away"?
  Don't worry about the original, I am sure it too is too slow for you. I am sure the remake, with Madonna and Giannini's son, Adriano, is gonna be more to your taste.
  I think we need to dispense with the likes of Lina Wertmuller - who needs all that insight? The original title: "Travolti da un insolito destino nell'azzurro mare d'agosto" also sounds too complicated for an average American.
  Too bad there is really no replacement for Mariangela Melato - that Italian super-white-hot bomb shell has no parallels in the world cinema, with Madonna at best being able to replicate her after fix years in a hard labor camp.
  Seen it yet?
  - A feast for the eyes.... - Mrs. Piggy 19:23:46 10/15/02 (3)
    Mariangela Melato
    - Mariangela Melato in stockings
    - I prefer mine blonde... - Victor Khomenko 20:01:41 10/15/02 (2)
      Unforgettable in "Notte d'estate con profilo greco, occhi a mandorla e odore di basilico", but Swept Away is her pinnacle.
      - OK then. Have it your way.... - Mrs. Piggy 20:20:46 10/15/02 (1)
        
        In Reply to: I prefer mine blonde... posted by Victor Khomenko on October 15, 2002 at 20:01:41:
        
        .
        
        Blonds have more fun!
        
        Re: OK then. Have it your way.... - Victor Khomenko 05:39:35 10/16/02 (0)
        
        In Reply to: OK then. Have it your way.... posted by Mrs. Piggy on October 15, 2002 at 20:20:46:
        
        Thanks! Last night I poked a bit around the net for good pics and could not find any... I thought I was stuck with Julia Roberts images plus my memories.
  - Re: This is the season to warm up your Hollywood heart... more remakes - groovenoter 15:11:32 10/15/02 (3)
    I'm sure you will be even more heartened to know that Hollywood is also remaking the Stanley Donen classic Charade with Mark Wahlberg in the Cary Grant role (!!!) and Thadie Newton (correct spelling? She's the black girl from MI2) in the Hepburn part.
    - I call it.... - Mrs. Piggy 18:28:41 10/15/02 (1)
      Hollywood entropy.
      Once a unique or vital creation has been made, there is a loss of creative energy that can never be recaptured--over time this loss adds up--until all that remains is the remnants of something great rehashed into something mediocre. Then the mediocre is rehashed into the substandard, and so on and so forth, until they won't even bother making real movies anymore (only porn--people are willing to dismiss pornographic entropy).
      mp
      - Re: I call it.... - gware 00:30:16 10/16/02 (0)
        
        In Reply to: I call it.... posted by Mrs. Piggy on October 15, 2002 at 18:28:41:
        
        You wouldn't want to know what I call it.
        Formulaic drivel sells, it's unfortunate, but true. The Moguls know they can secure the rights to some old story for pennies, and it will likely be a winner 2nd or 3rd time around. There's a lot to be said for the attraction of the name; SOLARIS sounds like it will be interesting from the name. Shakespeare pulled off the perfect coup with naming one of his plays "A Midsummer Night's Dream", it SOUNDS like it would be wonderful, whatever it is about, people would be drawn to any production with that as a name. A masterpiece in copywriting.
        As it is, it's one of his lesser works; Shakespeare understood the entertainment industry 400 years ago, and nothing has really changed since
        Eric
        Tokyo
    - Gee... why not? - Victor Khomenko 17:54:21 10/15/02 (0)
      Sometimes I feel I should be desensitized by now, but every news like that still sends me into a short spin.
      I am sure they will make it more... lively?
  - Nope. (nt) - Audiophilander 08:46:34 10/15/02 (0)
    (nt)
- Science Fiction as the complete opposite of Star Wars.. - gware 06:16:52 10/15/02 (8)
  Couldn't be more different than a Hollywood "Space Western" You have to slow down to a European pace to enjoy this one; this film, and "the Stalker" are Andrej Tarkovsky at his best IMHO
  Not for the cinematic faint of heart or those wanting a quick action fix, it's art cinema, it sets it's own pace and there are those that love the original; I'm one of them
  Eric
  Tokyo
  - The fact that Star Wars and the original Solaris are at opposite ends of the spectrum... - Audiophilander 08:44:20 10/15/02 (7)
    ... doesn't make Solaris high art any more than it makes Star Wars low art. They are entirely different types of films although arguably both fall within the genre of science fiction. IMHO, "art cinema" doesn't have to plod along at a snail's pace unless that's your preference. You have equated, mistakingly, my distaste for boredom as a singular preference for "action" films, which is an unfortunate stereotyping of my tastes. While I do like some action-oriented SF, there are many good science fiction films with little or no action (i.e., at least externalized action in the form of wall-to-wall explosions, chases, combat, etc.). I find good character-driven science fiction is often anything but boring.
    Internalized, thought provoking science fiction films, such as Charley (based on the Daniel Keyes short story "Flowers for Algernon"), Silent Running, 2001 A Space Odyssey, Close Encounters of the Third Kind, A Clockwork Orange, A.I. Artificial Intelligence, etc., while definitely the exception, have managed to avoid the Sominex warning label in spite of a non-reliance on FX to carry their message; OTOH, the Russian filmed version of Solaris is a real snoozer, IMO.
    But, what the hey, it's just one man's viewpoint, right?
    AuPh
    - Audiophilander... I've seen every Film on your list... - gware 17:32:58 10/15/02 (6)
      but "AI", and I thoroughly enjoyed them all.
      Totally agree, "each to his own", some Japanese films like Mizoguchi's "Ugetsu Monogotari" have such mollasses pace they make Tarkovsky's "Solaris" seem like an afternoon at Indy Raceway by comparison; Bergmanns films ain't exactly high paced action thrillers either, but surely a film can be boring regardless of pace
      Thank God we are all different, "Gone with the Wind" has never done anything at all for me, kind of like a joke I just never got, so I know what you mean, no inference of stereotyping was expressed or should be implied!!
      Eric
      Tokyo
      - Gone With The Wind...Really Gone Second Time Around. - AudioHead 12:19:03 10/16/02 (5)
        
        In Reply to: Audiophilander... I've seen every Film on your list... posted by gware on October 15, 2002 at 17:32:58:
        
        Saw GWTW as a child and really enjoyed it, later as a young adult,
        went to see it for a second time with expectations of being
        highly entertained once again,but got up and left after about an hour, no emotional
        involvement at all, a complete bore for some reason. - AH
        
        The reason: It's boring! Simple as that :o)-nt - Mrs. Piggy 14:43:57 10/16/02 (4)
        
        In Reply to: Gone With The Wind...Really Gone Second Time Around. posted by AudioHead on October 16, 2002 at 12:19:03:
        
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        You can say that again - Victor Khomenko 15:00:38 10/16/02 (3)
        
        In Reply to: The reason: It's boring! Simple as that :o)-nt posted by Mrs. Piggy on October 16, 2002 at 14:43:57:
        
        But quietly... there are many Americans here.
        Corny and superficial. Is shallow the same as superficial, or stronger?
        
        :o) gone with the wind is boring (she said again).... - Mrs. Piggy 17:12:50 10/16/02 (2)
        
        In Reply to: You can say that again posted by Victor Khomenko on October 16, 2002 at 15:00:38:
        
        superficial...on the surface not going deep enough
        shallow...not deep
        seem to be very similar
        But let's ask Audiophilander for sure...he is godd with terms and meanings.
        I hear it often like this:
        People can be superficial
        but people are shallow (a personality trait)
        The movie is shallow because it portrayed a superficial view of the topic. (Sounds forced...I think we need an expert!)
        At any rate, it is a good question
        hmmm?
        mp
        
        Hmmm... I Wonder About The Analogy............. - AudioHead 08:18:33 10/17/02 (0)
        
        In Reply to: :o) gone with the wind is boring (she said again).... posted by Mrs. Piggy on October 16, 2002 at 17:12:50:
        
        SUPERFICIAL is to SHALLOW as EGGS are to HAM? IOW, the CHICKEES
        are INVOLVED, but the PIGGYS are COMMITTED! - AH
        
        LOL! Thanks! :-)))) nt - Victor Khomenko 17:31:38 10/16/02 (0)
        
        In Reply to: :o) gone with the wind is boring (she said again).... posted by Mrs. Piggy on October 16, 2002 at 17:12:50:
        
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