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In Reply to: I would add Brazil... posted by Mrs. Piggy on October 28, 2002 at 17:44:18:

influential in the future of sci fi.
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I disagree... matrix is already influential - darkstar 14:47:43 10/29/02 (4)
if I have to watch another slo-mo walks-on-walls and dodges-bullets scene, I'll die.
Matrix, like '2001' and 'Star Wars' did more to destroy SF than any other films going. Hey Victor, I agree with you on the 2001 thing.
Once upon a time I read SF relentlessly, and it was the ideas in the stories that carried them (unfortunately seldom the characters). This has been refined, like white sugar, down into FX.
FX FX FX.
Cool for about the first 10 seconds, then its, been there, done that.
For me it's the ideas, not the images.
Randy

It is only with the heart that one can see rightly. What is essential is invisible to the eye. - Antoine De Saint-Exupery
- Re: I disagree... matrix is already influential - Jabberwock 20:03:59 10/29/02 (2)
  > > FX FX FX. < <
  Similar to the influence Alien has had, with all those monsters popping out of peoples� chests. How often since Alien have we seen that one? (See the new Mike�s Hard Lemonade commercial, for instance.) I wonder how �influential� H.R. Geiger�s art would be wihtout Alien�s help?
  - Anyone see Basket Case.... - Mrs. Piggy 20:08:06 10/29/02 (1)
    reminds me of aliens too.
    mp
    - Both Basket Case and Basket Case 2. <Nt> - AudioHead 09:45:01 10/31/02 (0)
      nt
- FX R not Enuff. - Harmonia 16:43:09 10/29/02 (0)
  Special effects should serve the story and the characterisation. It's the "idea" behind the effect that's interesting to me, withoutone, it's just so much visual wanking...a sad sign of the times that style and image is all.
  Geez - people see and collect movies for the effects. ARGH.
  No ideas + no development = no movie, no matter how good the CGI.
  (Thank God for Peter Jackson.)
The effects are not original though..... - dado5 10:52:42 10/29/02 (0)
However, much as Columbus is regarded above the Vikings, Polynesians or any other ancient mariners as the discoverer of the Americas, the Matrix will be sited as breaking ground with the '3D scene freeze' thing.
There was a space western out about a year before the Matrix that starred Freddie Prinze Jr. that utilized this effect in a few scenes.
Rob
sorry terminator...matrix is 'real'. - njjohn 19:51:41 10/28/02 (0)
i agree. room has to be made for matrix.
i think the betrayal in the film was kind of ridiculous. 'i should have taken the blue pill'. it didn't make sense that the guy wanted to go back and be duped by the matrix.
and sure, the explanation of how machines took over the world was ridiculous too, except the idea of the energy in people being like batteries which another species could harness.
but i don't think a film gets much better than matrix in a realistic metaphorical impact. the special effects are fantastic too. to see the man plucked out of his cage/chamber, and to see a whole world of similar trapped beings, and to see those bug/robotic things hunt the craft, was amazing.
the real world, the destroyed world looked pretty fantastic too.
the opening scene of 'swordfish' (the next film by this director) was pretty fantastic too. but the film could not deliver like the matrix could.
'matrix' is a sci-fi film of true philosophical import. in between action scenes was a film of philosophical importance.
the description and explanation of 'matrix' is what makes this film really above all sci-fi's.
sorry 'terminator'......
Re: I would also like to add that the Matrix will probably be very... - Victor Khomenko 18:57:49 10/28/02 (10)
I suspect you are unfortunately right... long sigh...
- The acting was pretty bad... - Mrs. Piggy 19:11:28 10/28/02 (9)
  and a couple of the characters where cheesy enough, kind of like terminator, but the plot was excellent. And I enjoyed the filming and the scene staging. The special effects were unique and the director did try to create a mood. The mystical approach was somewhat novel and different, and I can respect that creatively.
  Although for Canoe Reeves, in the acting arena, it was his finest hour :o)
  mp
  - acting had to be bad ... - Mart 23:27:01 11/02/02 (0)
    ... not that Keanu is capable of great acting. I am saying that great acting could kill a movie like "Matrix". Actors have to play 2nd fiddle to the "Lost in Space" plot, "Xena : Warrior Princess" action & the "Avengers" style. It's far from revolutionary. It's more evolutionary. It was meant to have a surreal "Laura Croft" video-game edge to it (which was obviously missing it the cheesy film of the same name). Anyway, a high caliber actor with impelling stage presence would upstage the film IME. In direct contradiction, I site "Planet of the Apes(1969)". There Chuck Heston carried the film as can be witnessed by the apalling sequels.
    
    ... just my 2� � moderate Mart � �
    Planar Asylum
  - A Walk in the Clouds is Keanu's best by far..nt.. - late 19:26:49 10/28/02 (7)
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    - No, No, No it was his..... - dado5 12:02:53 10/30/02 (0)
      Powerful, multi-layered performance as Don John in Much Ado About Nothing.
      Johnny Utah meets the Bard.....'verily and for sooth, Dude'
      Rob
    - Oh, Lordy.. - padreken 13:13:02 10/29/02 (1)
      When I think of Keanu uttering lines like "she's like the air to me" I just cringe. I do like that film, though- the beautiful cinematography and excellent supporting performances (particularly Anthony Quinn and the actor who played the father) make it worth watching.
      - LOL that would be cringe material!-nt - Mrs. Piggy 13:49:35 10/29/02 (0)
        
        In Reply to: Oh, Lordy.. posted by padreken on October 29, 2002 at 13:13:02:
        
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    - He should've stopped at "Bill & Ted's" - mishmashmusic 09:59:42 10/29/02 (1)
      I mean, come on! A dozen different actors could have played his part in the Matrix--he wasn't the star, the effects were the real star.
      "Canoe" is just about the worst actor to have ever made it big in Hollywood, hands down.
      - He went to the Mickey Mouse & William Shatner school of - Mrs. Piggy 12:55:53 10/29/02 (0)
        
        In Reply to: He should've stopped at "Bill & Ted's" posted by mishmashmusic on October 29, 2002 at 09:59:42:
        
        Character acting,
        and Failed!
        He is a male bimbo (mimbo)
        mp
    - Hey, did you notice how I spelled his name.... - Mrs. Piggy 19:30:38 10/28/02 (0)
      pretty funny if I do say so myself!
      mp
    - No way!!!! - Mrs. Piggy 19:29:18 10/28/02 (0)
      :o)
      mp
      Ya wanna take it to the mat!