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In Reply to: I really have misjudged you! posted by MVWINE on November 01, 2002 at 12:14:08:
It sounds like he may still be in college...
ah, to be young again.
I remember taking things for granted when I was his age.
When I moved to Miami, and heard the hardships of people living in Cuba, Columbia, and Mexico...I had a wake up call.My friend in Columbia told me when she was young, the police would frequently raid her home for items her parents brought back from the states. They would even take clothes and perfume. She said she would overhear them discussing how to divide the goods.
My husband and his family where forced to leave Cuba in 1970, with only the clothes they were wearing and their passports. They could not take any of their possessions, not even pictures. And you know what, they were lucky.
mp
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A professor.
something ridiculous like "capitalism splits the indvidual in two" and then not be able to back up this nonsensical statement.And then say Brazil and 1984 illustrate the pitfalls of capitalism.
That is laughable!I have asked you to supply some ideas and you can't you just talk about prefering regimes and systems that clearly oppress individuals rather than that nasty covert capitalistic oppression.
If, IF, you are a professor.....oh lord!
mpare you joking with us?:o)
> > you can't you just talk about prefering regimes and systems that clearly oppress individuals rather than that nasty covert capitalistic oppression. < <I think that what we are HEADING FOR may end up being worse than the overt oppression you're talking about. I don't PREFER either, but despise both.
schools are jailkeepers?
What about parents, are they jailkeepers too?
Don't children go to school in this perfect economic/political system you have created for yourself, and only you, because you won't share it with us.mp
To begin with, I deleted that comment. Take a look.Second, I did not claim that Brazil and 1984 illustrate my point in the way you are construing me to have claimed. 'Twas your description of the world presented there that I responded to. > > The gloominess, and prevelent idea that the core of the individual must be destroyed for the benefit of the group < < I see the same thing happening in our post-capitalist society. But you want to see Brazil and 1984 as being about totalitarianism and totalitarianism only. Disregarding that mistake, I'm arguing simply that some of the mind-control techniques shown in those films are present today in America (take corporate implanting on young consumers, for example, like the kind practiced by Mountain Dew and Nike). I'm happy to explain, or at least to TRY to articulate what I see. It's not any easy thing to do, despite the help of some of the authors I mentioned (to which I'd add Noam Chomsky as a good starting point for further reading).
Third, about my teaching credentials: I'm not on this forum to represent myself professionally (obviously!). It's a play-space. Why else would I be talking to a person masquerading as a pig?! If you want a dissertation or a rigidly rhetorical argument, look elsewhere.
to help children. Schools were designed to help societies! That is a plain fact. Referring to that strange link you provided.mp
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