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• Why? There are two kinds of films: good ones, and bad ones. - orejones 10:20:52 11/07/02 (2)
  In Reply to: Are " Western " a minor genre ? Are the Frederico´s more worth than... posted by PatrickU on November 05, 2002 at 07:51:56:

  And there are some excellent westerns. And there are a lot of incredibly boring, pretentious, snobbish "intellectual" films, too.

  Regards

  BF
  
  

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  • Well, sorta - Victor Khomenko 14:03:11 11/08/02 (1)
    In Reply to: Why? There are two kinds of films: good ones, and bad ones. posted by orejones on November 07, 2002 at 10:20:52:

    This is what I usually say too. And there are some good westerns too... however, I can't think of any *great* one.

    This is not a damnation of the genre, just the statement of the fact that no great director has ever made a great film of that kind.

    At least I can't think of any. The Unforgiven is a good film, but not much more than that.

    Like it or not, the original question mentioned Federico - and that puts the plank HIGH.

    When you think Fellini you are in the masterpiece territory, and the entrance fee is steep.
    
    

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    • If you mean the Huston Unforgiven-- - Des 02:46:00 11/10/02 (0)
      In Reply to: Well, sorta posted by Victor Khomenko on November 08, 2002 at 14:03:11:

      --Victor, on an emotional level yes--but not the Eastwood one --fine as it was.

      Ford's The Searchers and Wellman's the Ox-Bow Incident come close--and the undertones of racial inequality and intolerance pushed the boundaries of the time.

      While Ford's film slipped through the net,Wellman's was restricted and suffered accordingly.

      Des

      
      
      

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• For a "minor genre" there's a lot of representation... - gware 19:58:42 11/05/02 (3)
  In Reply to: Are " Western " a minor genre ? Are the Frederico´s more worth than... posted by PatrickU on November 05, 2002 at 07:51:56:

  My votes for Sam Peckinpah's; The Wild Bunch, and Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid
  As Classics: StageCoach or High Noon
  For laughs: Blazing Saddles or The Three Amigos
  Most unusual: Silverado (Cast of the Big Chill plus John Cleese), apparently the biggest budget Western ever...
  Eric
  Tokyo

  
  
  

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  • The question was...Is the " western genre " the equivalent of the most intellectual films ? - patrickU 04:29:40 11/06/02 (2)
    In Reply to: For a "minor genre" there's a lot of representation... posted by gware on November 05, 2002 at 19:58:42:

    Yes or not...
    
    

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    • Re: The question was...Is the " western genre " the equivalent of the most intellectual films ? - fredgarvin 11:45:33 11/06/02 (1)
      In Reply to: The question was...Is the " western genre " the equivalent of the most intellectual films ? posted by patrickU on November 06, 2002 at 04:29:40:

      To me, no genre can specifically be held as the most intellectual, it all comes down to the writing and editing usually... not to downplay directing, acting etc. And I second the endorsement of Pat Garret and Billy the kid. Also "Little Big Man". Excellent in all respects.
      
      

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      • Re: The question was...Is the " western genre " the equivalent of the most intellectual films ? - patrickU 02:30:58 11/07/02 (0)
        In Reply to: Re: The question was...Is the " western genre " the equivalent of the most intellectual films ? posted by fredgarvin on November 06, 2002 at 11:45:33:

        But you know the intellectual snobism that curse a lot of people...
        In France, rightly so, the Ford´s and consort are in very high esteem.
        I think you answer was what I wanted.
        So too bad, no discussion possible.
        
        

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