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In Reply to: I agree . . . posted by Harmonia on November 07, 2002 at 15:50:05:
Well, I sorta disagree with both of you guys. B or no B, find one movie guide where it is not rated among the best movies ever produced. I haven't seen one such list.The list you mention is most definitely not the only one like that - you routinely see it listed among the ten, the twenty, the whatever best films of all times.
Even here.
Its cult in America is incredible.
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It hasn't made the Sight & Sound 10 best, either the critic or the director lists, in the last ten years.Of course, what does that mean when on critic listed both The Exorcist and Mary Poppins in his ten best, lol.
Actually, I can't claim credit for the "world's best B movie" line; I read it somewhere.I think the point, Victor, is expectations. One has lower expectations of a "B" movie than of one with serious artistic presentations. Most of the things that you and Harmonia complain about with this movie -- the predictablity and so on -- are characteristic of the genre.
It is also, a propaganda film -- indeed, an allegory.
So, the net conclusion is that, within the conventions of those genres, it does very, very well.
As for its appearance on "ten best" lists and the like; I take no responsiblity. Who knows what criteria are used by the compilers of such lists?
To make an analogy, it's like complaining that my minivan doesn't pull 0.9 G's around a corner, or accelerate to 100 kph in 6 seconds, unlike, say, an M3. But, if you want to carry 7 people somewhere, you're definitely SOL with the M3; and my minivan does the job handily. And for a minivan it handles with some alacrity and is reasonably fast.
Long as we're talking Bogie films -- I'll put "The Treasure of the Sierra Madre" up with the best of any films, no qualifications, no excuses.
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