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In Reply to: Our Man Flint is no more.... posted by gware on November 19, 2002 at 20:18:24:
Peckinpah's western "Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid." Critics killed that movie but I think it's a classic, if revisionist, western. Great performances by Coburn, Kristofferson, and Paul Fix. It also had wonderful - almost career summing - performances by two of the best character actors in the history of Hollywood: Slim Pickens and Katy Jurado.Speaking of Katy Jurado.....she recently passed away yet I read not a single word of appreciation or even a mention of her on this forum. I admit to being just as guily as the rest of this crew. Anyway, here was one of the great Latina actresses who had a fine Hollywood career playing real women instead of stereotypes. Did she not receive an Oscar nod for "High Noon"? She was a gifted actress, the quality of which is too rare these days.
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Pat Garret and Billy the Kid is truly a Classic, I think Sam Peckinpah is greatly underappreciated as a Director.
He was certainly capable of capturing great performances from his actors, and the only film of his I've seen that was really bad was Major Dundee, a film that was ripped to ribbons by the editor and one that Peckinpah subsequently disowned (for good reason)
Bob Dylan has a small part in PG + BTK too doesn't he?
Full of great lines, great actors and very very dark humor
To my embarassment it wasn't until recently I discovered that Pat Garret and Billy the Kid were real people, and not just a work of fiction
I wonder how faithfully Peckinpah captured the story?
Eric
Tokyo
Dylan had a small but important role in the film, in addition to scoring it.The story is factual but not true-to-facts. Peckinpah and the writers took considerable artistic license with history. That said, the movie is more a fable of the creation and end of myth. I think it's a moving and memorable film. I would rate it as one of the great westerns. From that era, only "Little Big Man" and "Will Penny" are as good.
"Major Dundee" isn't a terrible film. It would have been considerably better had the studio not taken it away from Peckinpah at the editing stage. I would love to see a "director's cut." Alas, there isn't one and, since Peckinpah has been gone for several years, not likely to be. UNLESS SOME LUCKY SOUL CAN FIND A SHOOTING SCRIPT AND REEDIT THE FILM - if the edited out footage is still extant.
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