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In Reply to: Re: I wasn't trying to change your view posted by TA on November 25, 2002 at 11:23:09:
To illustrate further take a scene from "North by Northwest" - one of my favorites, and since you mentioned it. When Cary Grant tosses the matchbook with the message over the railing, and it falls on the floor. The suspense is palpable - will Martin Landau (or James Mason) see it? It's done perfectly - the director MUST have felt that kind of tension at some point to be able to convey it that convincingly.This is something that could have been either overdone to the point of stupidity, or underplayed so that you missed the whole thing. So where many point to "North by Northwest" as being the father of all blockbusters (which it may be), it's done so well, and communicates so well, that it becomes art. Not to mention that it has subtexts - the crush Landau's character has on Mason's, for example.
And I think that's where films succeed, be it a "blockbusters" or not, is to what extent it makes you feel those real life feelings and experiences.
And I'm not sure what your point is about Woody Allen's use of comedy. Yes, he uses comedy many times, but it still makes me feel what the character is feeling. And it serves to highten the moments of poignancy when they occur. You and I may agree on one thing - I would put "Annie Hall", "Crimes and Misdemeanors", and "Hannah and her Sisters" all ahead of "Interiors" - a good movie, but not his strongest.
If you see such effective communication of emotions and experiences in Spielberg's films, than I have obviously missed the boat and am willing to try to see it.
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Follow Ups:
To try to sum it up:It sounds like you and I agree that great art can come as comedy, adventure or drama. Bergman makes his art best through drama; Woody makes his art best through comedy. That was what I was trying to say on Woody Allen and comedy. Similarly, I think Spielberg makes his art best through adventure.
You and I disagree on two things, I think.
One, whether Spielberg's films come out of a personal passion like Woody's obviously do. Here, I think yes: in many of his films, Spielberg explores discovery, wonder and awe in the way that Woody explores adult relationships in many of his. (Woody once said in response to Spielberg's comment that he makes the films he wanted to see as a kid, I make the films that I want to see as an adult.)
Second, whether Spielberg hits the emotional "oomph" that, say, Bergman or Woody do with their good films. Here, it's really a matter of personal taste.
Great discussion. I think your last paragraph nails it.Cheers
I gave at the office!
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