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In Reply to: In case you're wondering, Ebert's top ten greatest movies of all time...: posted by Harmonia on November 25, 2002 at 17:29:47:
Harmonia, A big thanks for the link to the BFI site.In his Q&A column, Ebert said that his Sight & Sound list diverges slightly from his true list. The point of the poll was to make a master list of top films off the individual lists. In some cases, Ebert substituted what he knew would be more obvious choices among the other critics rather than 'throw away' the vote. In his books he's usually got a documentary and a couple offbeat picks in his top 10 lists. (I think those alternate choices would make Victor cringe even more - they're bound to be in his third tier!)
I wonder if his choices for the Great Movies feature has changed over time based on the feedback he gets from people. I mean, when he reviews The Apu Trilogy, who the hell is going to say that they checked it out after reading his column? As opposed to writing up Goodfellas. (I once wrote reviews for my school paper highlighting upcoming films at the film society. If I recommended an obscure film, it made no difference. But if I picked something overlooked that was in English and in color, a people would comment that they tried it out based on my suggestion.) Plus Ebert writes for the Sun Times, not the Chicago Tribune. It's a different audience (like the New York Post versus the New York Times).
Having read or seen Ebert for so long, I feel like I understand what he looks for in movies. He's one of the few reviewers whose reviews are archived online, and he seems to write on everthing that comes out. In other words, agree or disagree with his opinion, I have a good sense of whether I'll like a new movie after reading his review - much more than asking a colleague at work whether a movie is good. To me, the value of reading his reviews is that consistency and knowing where the opinion is coming from.
Roeper escapes me. Like Siskel, he'll dismiss films for no principled reason. I remember him talking about The Mexican on their show. Roeper basically said: Since this movie stars Brad and Julia, I expected to see a lot of Brad and Julia onscreen together. The movie puts them in very few scenes together, so it wasn't the movie I expected to see. So I didn't like it. Siskel sometimes reviewed movies like that too.
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I think most of the critics participating in the S&S poll, if not all of them, are rather self-conscious in their selections, there's a feeling of compiling a list for the ages. The directors seem much more frank about their choices.I used to do a fair bit of reviewing. In picking the "greatest of all time", I think it's fairly typical that one would select films that one thought were outstanding in all their respects and had withstood the test of time, even if they weren't one's very favorite masterpieces. So many masterpieces, so little time.
But the polls are fun to peruse and they do provoke discussion.
Siskel was a master of intellectual precocity and eloquence compared to Roeper. Roeper's review of LOTR basically dismissed it - everyone knew that the only people who would be interested in the film were Tolkien geeks who consisted entirely of nerdy young male persons who'd never had a date, why would anyone else wanna see movie like that? (Gee, Roeper therby dismisses C.S. Lewis, W.H. Auden, 30 million married women, 50 million baby boomers who read it and wore Frodo lives buttons, plus countless children and old people.) Roeper is more about promoting and entertaining himself than he is concerned about offering any remotely perceptive insights into cinema.
about his consistency. That's what I find with magazine reviewers (Wine Spectator, Stereophile, Et Al) I may disagree with what they think is good, but as long as they provide accurate descriptions, and are consistent, I can glean what I need to know. Hell, there are even a few people on AA that are like that.I don't read too many movie reviews, I usually take the plunge or listen to feedback from friends, but the same thing goes with them, too.
I gave at the office!
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