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In Reply to: Non-snob "Best Films of All Time." posted by tinear on December 01, 2002 at 01:38:05:
...much, lol. (Drops grenade.)I really like that critic's stuff - I really think those films are truly great - and most of them are great fun for me to watch too.
"Great" and "enjoyable" don't mean the same thing but they're not mutually exclusive.
The Hidden is one of my favorite genre films, but it ain't Alexander Nevsky. Have you actually watched Nevsky or Ivan the Terrible or Potemkin???? So what're your criteria for "great"? You enjoyed it?
OTOH, Pandora's Box is probably a "great film", and many critics love it too. Black Orpheus, Los Olvidados, Belle du jour, McCabe & Mrs. Miller, Blow-up, and the Cocteau films all regularly make critics' lists...uh oh. You may be a closet snob.
Giant, The Big Country (love the music), The Getaway, The Big Sleep, Of Human Bondage, The Vanishing, are all enjoyable (if not great) films. Although I think The Getaway is hardly the best Jim Thompson to reach the big screen. The European vesion of The Vanishing is pretty scary, the US remake is lame. Jackie Brown is interesting, a step in the right direction for Tarantino. The Collector was pretty creepy, but I haven't seen it in twenty years.
Sheltering Sky - interesting failure. The Passenger Anotonioni's best??? Don't think so. The Conformist - don't remember well. French Lieutenant's Woman - Meryl does good accent, mediocre film. Peixote - never seen it.
Really, the only trash on your list is arguably The Hidden, and it's a fun piece of genre filmmaking. I think you need to ryy harder. Your list isn't that provacative. And anti-snobbery is snobbery of a sort.
Think I'll go watch Say Anything.
So many movies, so little time.
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with Bertolucci's best film is astounding. How could one not KNOW "The Conformist?"
Don't tell me you want to argue some of Antonioni's "high art" paint-dryers are great? Historically important doesn't make them so, unless one feels that Joyce's "Ulysses," is also great (never met a truthful person that had read it.)
If it's boring, it ain't great (see "Hamlet").
Now, I dare anyone with at least two active neurons, and with less than a liter of strong espresso in them, to stay awake during any of Eisenstein's historical films. Jesus, only Tarkovsky is s-l-o-w-e-r. So, what kinds of methamphetamines do you indulge? (And it's bogus to compare "The Hidden" to a film in another genre; how would one compare "2001..." to "Mr. Hulot?"
***"Great" and "enjoyable" don't mean the same thing but they're not mutually exclusive.I'll drink to that, it's the difference between having a great teacher and having sex.
***OTOH, Pandora's Box is probably a "great film", and many critics love it too. Black Orpheus, Los Olvidados, Belle du jour, McCabe & Mrs. Miller, Blow-up, and the Cocteau films all regularly make critics' lists...uh oh. You may be a closet snob.LOL! That was my feelings exactly!
***Sheltering Sky - interesting failure. The Passenger Anotonioni's best??? Don't think so.And here I agree with him... which one would you rate higher?
***The Conformist - don't remember well.Love that one. Marvelous.
***French Lieutenant's Woman - Meryl does good accent, mediocre film. Peixote - never seen it.
Ditto on both counts.
***Really, the only trash on your list is arguably The Hidden, and it's a fun piece of genre filmmaking. I think you need to ryy harder. Your list isn't that provacative. And anti-snobbery is snobbery of a sort.
Agreed.
***So many movies, so little time.To this one I would add: so many so hard to find!
***French Lieutenant's Woman - Meryl does good accent, mediocre film. Peixote - never seen it.***Ditto on both counts.
Remember seeing Pixote - I presume the extra 'e' was just a mistake, the Brazilian film about a boy... it was OK, nothing too great.
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