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• Hmm.... - Alex Yakovlev 10:57:48 12/06/02 (4)
  In Reply to: SOmeone called the new Solaris the worst stinker of the past 20 years... posted by Victor Khomenko on December 04, 2002 at 17:17:17:

  Very good movie for someone who did not read the book.
  For someone who actually did - it is even worse than the Tarkovsky' version.
  IMHO.
  
  

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  • See, AuPh!!! Tarkovsky beats the wannabe hands down! - Victor Khomenko 11:39:24 12/06/02 (3)
    In Reply to: Hmm.... posted by Alex Yakovlev on December 06, 2002 at 10:57:48:

    ***For someone who actually did - it is even worse than the Tarkovsky' version.

    See - another vote in favor of Tark over the new one! :-))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
    
    

    
    
    
    

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    • Absolutely (nt) - Alex Yakovlev 11:44:47 12/06/02 (2)
      In Reply to: See, AuPh!!! Tarkovsky beats the wannabe hands down! posted by Victor Khomenko on December 06, 2002 at 11:39:24:

      
      
      

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      • BTW - - Victor Khomenko 11:56:18 12/06/02 (1)
        In Reply to: Absolutely (nt) posted by Alex Yakovlev on December 06, 2002 at 11:44:47:

        I read the book when I was a teenager and as the movie was being made I kept watching the news with anticipation - perhaps you are too young to remember (?), but there was plenty of coverage at that time. Since the novel was my top favorite sci-fi book at the time (together with Lem's other work - the Invincible), my friends and I went to see it right away and I loved it back then. Of course, I was still young then. But seeing it several times more later I fell even more in love with it.

        So at least in my case there has not been that book-film animosity.
        

        
        
        
        

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        • Re: BTW - - Alex Yakovlev 12:03:11 12/06/02 (0)
          In Reply to: BTW - posted by Victor Khomenko on December 06, 2002 at 11:56:18:

          I was 7 when the film was released. I read the book around 15 and only saw the movie few years later. I love Lem only little less than my most favorite sci-fi authors - The Brothers (Strugatski), and "Solaris" is my favorite book of his.
          Probably this is why I was not too impressed with Tarkovsky's version. Of course, he did not destroy "Solaris" same way he did with "Piknik on the sidewalk", but he did change a lot and I was very disappointed because of this.
          
          

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• I totally disagree - Mr. Gridlock 09:17:01 12/05/02 (1)
  In Reply to: SOmeone called the new Solaris the worst stinker of the past 20 years... posted by Victor Khomenko on December 04, 2002 at 17:17:17:

  I thought it was an excellent movie. Soderbergh's photography was stunning, just like in Traffic. The score was very sparing and I loved that. I also thought Soderbergh did a good job of distilling the story down to its core. Both the book and the original movie did not hold my attention (and for that matter, the original movie was much too long).

  Clooney was excellent. McElhone is gorgeous, and while she had a much smaller amount of screen time, turned in a very good performance. At no time did I think it was slow or boring.

  I thought it was a good study of who we are and what we think of (and about) others.

  I have no idea why you guys WANT to bash this flick. Maybe it's just Soderbergh you find an easy target. Or some notion of what "Hollywood" movies are. I don't know why you guys bother to watch movies at all.
  
  

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  • Re: I totally disagree - Victor Khomenko 10:35:07 12/05/02 (0)
    In Reply to: I totally disagree posted by mr. gridlock on December 05, 2002 at 09:17:01:

    ***I don't know why you guys bother to watch movies at all.

    I don't know whom you mean by "you guys". I am sure AuPh knows why he watches. I do too. clark does. So do many others. If you mean the guy who called it the worse stinker in 20 years, then you should probably ask him.

    To answer you other question - Solaris to many of us represents the finest in movie making. As such we - some of us, anyway - treat it with special respect. Like many other fine movies of that caliber.

    So when the news hit about the director many of us consider very lame (can't think on a single movie he made that I liked) taking his shot, plus with the actor some of us consider very lame too, that naturally created negative expectation. It would be different if a good director decided to do so.

    
    I am glad you liked it.
    
    

    
    
    
    

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• It makes for a great nap. Try it . . . . . (nt) - rufus 19:08:56 12/04/02 (1)
  In Reply to: SOmeone called the new Solaris the worst stinker of the past 20 years... posted by Victor Khomenko on December 04, 2002 at 17:17:17:

  nt
  
  

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  • That's too bad; if it is, then the remake must be as boring as the original. (nt) - Audiophilander 20:13:33 12/04/02 (0)
    In Reply to: It makes for a great nap. Try it . . . . . (nt) posted by rufus on December 04, 2002 at 19:08:56:

    (nt)
    
    

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• Was it Patrick? :o) -nt - Mrs. Piggy 18:14:36 12/04/02 (2)
  In Reply to: SOmeone called the new Solaris the worst stinker of the past 20 years... posted by Victor Khomenko on December 04, 2002 at 17:17:17:

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  • What...What..... nt - patrickU 08:24:02 12/05/02 (0)
    In Reply to: Was it Patrick? :o) -nt posted by Mrs. Piggy on December 04, 2002 at 18:14:36:

    nt
    
    

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  • LOL! - Victor Khomenko 18:16:05 12/04/02 (0)
    In Reply to: Was it Patrick? :o) -nt posted by Mrs. Piggy on December 04, 2002 at 18:14:36:

    No, someone on TV, but I missed who.
    

    
    
    
    

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• Re: SOmeone called the new Solaris the worst stinker of the past 20 years... - TA 17:55:12 12/04/02 (9)
  In Reply to: SOmeone called the new Solaris the worst stinker of the past 20 years... posted by Victor Khomenko on December 04, 2002 at 17:17:17:

  solaris is already in theaters. i don't understand why people are predisposed to say the solaris remake sucks before seeing it. that's being as smart as people who think a movie must suck because it's not in english.
  
  

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  • BTW... - Victor Khomenko 18:15:06 12/04/02 (4)
    In Reply to: Re: SOmeone called the new Solaris the worst stinker of the past 20 years... posted by TA on December 04, 2002 at 17:55:12:

    That phrase was by someone who saw the film.

    I looked at the release schedule - you are right, it IS already out. But AuPh keeps quiet... that doesn't sound too good, I am afraid... :-))

    
    

    
    
    
    

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    • Re: BTW... - TA 08:57:39 12/05/02 (0)
      In Reply to: BTW... posted by Victor Khomenko on December 04, 2002 at 18:15:06:

      i'm talking about people here.
      
      

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    • I haven't seen it yet because I've had the flu; I may end up waiting for the video. - Audiophilander 20:32:51 12/04/02 (2)
      In Reply to: BTW... posted by Victor Khomenko on December 04, 2002 at 18:15:06:

      Last weekend when it opened I wasn't feeling well enough to see it and I'm still not up for hanging with crowds yet. Unfortunately, the Solaris trailers I've seen haven't impressed me any more than the original film, except that the effects I've glimpsed look better. In any case, there are several other major films opening soon that have more promise, so if I don't catch Solaris this coming weekend I may end up waiting to see the new improved version on video.

      AuPh
      
      

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      • No problem, get well, man! - Victor Khomenko 04:50:25 12/05/02 (1)
        In Reply to: I haven't seen it yet because I've had the flu; I may end up waiting for the video. posted by Audiophilander on December 04, 2002 at 20:32:51:

        Which other major ones are opening?
        

        
        
        
        

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        • Opening this weekend: Adaptation - Audiophilander 07:55:31 12/05/02 (0)
          In Reply to: No problem, get well, man! posted by Victor Khomenko on December 05, 2002 at 04:50:25:

          It's a movie about a frustrated screenwriter featuring Nicolas Cage (my wife, in addition to being an author and aspiring screenwriter is a big Nicolas Cage fan, so if I'm fully recuperated I'm pretty sure we'll see Adaptation before Solaris; also, the reviews are nearly 100% positive for Adaptation on the Rotten Tomatoes site).

          AuPh
          
          

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  • Good question - Victor Khomenko 18:13:03 12/04/02 (3)
    In Reply to: Re: SOmeone called the new Solaris the worst stinker of the past 20 years... posted by TA on December 04, 2002 at 17:55:12:

    ***i don't understand why people are predisposed to say the solaris remake sucks before seeing it.

    Well, would a bad director and a horrible lead actor be sufficient reason? Some of us call that "track record". I am sure that turned many people off. Me - I simply never pay to watch a Hollywood film. If it ever hits the free cable channel I will probably watch it.
    

    
    
    
    

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    • Re: Horrible Lead Actor...... - AudioHead 10:04:42 12/06/02 (2)
      In Reply to: Good question posted by Victor Khomenko on December 04, 2002 at 18:13:03:

      I had read that Soderberg originally wanted Daniel Day Lewis for that
      role, but Lewis was busy making Scorcese's "Gangs of New York" at the
      time, so he asked what's his name. I personally don't have any
      affinity or animosity toward what's his butt, thought he was OK in "Three Kings", but like Kevin Costner, he's never really made any
      great impression on me. Maybe Jeremy Irons would have been a better
      choice? BTW, unfortunately missed the original Solaris on TCM, it's
      out of stock at amazon.com., but will keep an eye open. - AH
      
      

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      • Re: Horrible Lead Actor...... - Victor Khomenko 15:00:27 12/07/02 (0)
        In Reply to: Re: Horrible Lead Actor...... posted by AudioHead on December 06, 2002 at 10:04:42:

        ***BTW, unfortunately missed the original Solaris on TCM, it's
        out of stock at amazon.com., but will keep an eye open

        I have a decent tape of it, if you would like to borrow it - let me know.
        

        
        
        
        

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      • ...and good ones - Victor Khomenko 14:50:29 12/07/02 (0)
        In Reply to: Re: Horrible Lead Actor...... posted by AudioHead on December 06, 2002 at 10:04:42:

        Well, that role calls for someone thoughtful, insightful, who can play inner emotions. None of the above applies to George.

        Hmmmm... Jeremy? I love that actor and that surely would be an intriguing idea. And you know what - I think several great British guys would be great in that role. Let's face it - I wish Anthony Hopkins made that one instead of his atrocious Hannibal trash. What a waste of great acting talent! Saw him sime time ago in the Bounty again - simply marvelous!!!!!!!!!
        

        
        
        
        

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