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In Reply to: A near appreciation of Solaris posted by Bambi B on December 08, 2002 at 12:31:36:
***Anyone seen a great film version of "Ulysses?"No... but I have seen the Hunger, and it convinces you that ANYTHING can be put on screen with success.
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VK,That's a good point. I never thought there could be a satisfying filming of Kafka, but the Perkins/Welles "The Trial" is very effective and does create the atmosphere. And there are great, satisfying movies of psychological depth in Bergman, Bunuel, and Truffaut but these are usually humans in more or less human interaction and still sometimes have to border on surrealism.
In the case of Solaris, the idea of the Solaris ocean somehow generating events and matter according to memory and desire is ostensibly science fiction fantasy, but it's not Harry Potter seeing his dead parents in a magic mirror, it's overpowering inner conflict. And our hero as a kind of super-therapist is both resisting events on analytical grounds but still drawn in on emotional ones- complex as hell- and what is suggested goes on in the (oceanic) subconscious. This depth seems to exist tantalyzingly out of reach in Tarkovsky without the nuance of the spoken communication. There is the scene in which the "wife" begins to doubt that she is the original version and that's tough to get across in a few summarized subtitles. I'm breaking a life-long rule and wishing there was a well-dubbed English version.
Bambi B
***There is the scene in which the "wife" begins to doubt that she is the original version and that's tough to get across in a few summarized subtitles. I'm breaking a life-long rule and wishing there was a well-dubbed English version.Interesting. I of course am lucky enough to watch it in its original language, but I thought the dialog was mostly simple enough not to lose much in translation and subtitles, and most of the drama happened in the acting, the faces. Perhaps I should watch at least some scenes again, paying attention to the quality of the subs.
The scene you are describing is unforgettable.
Agree with your other observations.
...tells me the English subtitles SUCK!clark
(That was Romy...)
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Victor, and you apparently are wiling to blaze your “sophistication” above the Clarks’? I would not recommend to go further on as it could be not beneficial for your ego and for your "valuable AA publicity".
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