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In Reply to: I'm sure you can come up with a list of the few ... posted by Edp on December 20, 2002 at 08:14:25:
***outstanding directors/films that come from America that would be exceptions to the opinion that "no film or art culture comes from America"And whose opinion would that be? If you just are building a hypothetical case, then I suggest staying with something that has true ring to it. Something like what I said - that among the best films made in the world the American share is small. If you took my 5% number to task and argued that it maybe as high as 20% or so, we might have a good argument, but to say none comes from here kills the argument. I do love many American movies, and we have talked about them MANY times. Recently there was a thred about great American directors, so please, let's not dump red herring here.
***As I could come up with a few examples of outstanding engineering/scientific achievements (KM-1 through K36A ejection seat, MIG 29 IR lookdown/shootdown) that would be exceptions to the opinion that " no innovation or advancement of technology, just copy/steal of existing western ideas, came from Russian engineers/scientists"
And that woudl be wrong too... but your point? This would only make sense if we agreed on the first statement, and I don't.
Hoollywood Machine, etc - I really don't care what we call them, makes no difference to me. We also talked about the decline of Hollywood in terms of its artistic merits, and that unfortunately is the fact. That is why people flock to the Independent Films.
So all in all, I see no reason to change my statement that only a small portion of good films comes from America. Ironically, I felt the same way about the portion of Russian films. Heck, even the Italian portion is not all that much greater - perhaps 20%?
So I really don't know what we are arguing about. You are not suggesting it is 100% - are you? Or even 75%, as AuPh seems to believe? That number is simply laughable.
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I don't care about film. I have little opinion on the worldwide source of good or bad film. I ain't aruging about percentages.Its simple. National labels evoke passionate responses. Try leaving out the word America. Some are tired of bashing no matter the subject. Anyway a good deal of the product producers in film (major studios) are owned by Japanese, and French based companies.
You missed the point Edp. I live in America, so I mentioned American films because they dominate the local cable. If I lived in France and the majority of films were French I would feel the same way. I did feel that way when I lived in Russia too. No need to get defensive.
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