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I did a search first, of course :)Interesting. I'm a big fan, so was a little surprised/disappointed to find the for-against ratio to be close to or less than 50/50; maybe it was unrealistic to think there would be a general consensus in the 'for' direction. While I appreciate that the pace is slow compare to most science-fiction movies, my mind is always so busy turning things over as I watch that it doesn't drag at all.
The slowness, in fact, coupled with the occasional repitive sound patterns such as the breathing or the beeping of the equipment induces a near-hypnotic state--even without drugs*--that allows you to stay 'plugged in' visually to the image while your mind performs variations on the themes of the film. In that respect, you might say the visual style is similar in principal to minimalist music such as Philip Glass (of whom I'm also a fan, and also very much in the minority I suspect! :(
Also, although attempting such a thing in the first place will inevitably be seen as pretentious by a segment of the population, it dares to present a cosmological world-view (or one at least one highly descriptive facet/episode of it) that is original and believable.
Finally, it is very very beatiful to watch and listen to, to my taste.
*disclaimer: when I watch this, often there is grass involved--looks like confessing to drug of choice was also predominant in the archives, so what the hell :)
I also note that my 'Stanley Kubrick Collection' DVD is 148 minutes, not the 165 minutes I've read about so I guess this round of releases is the wide release version (it's the same disc as in the boxed set, by the way, though some have reported image differences; they both claim to use 'elements' from the original source (a necessity I guess when transfering a cinerama format to video) so perhaps the color is just hotter on the boxed set version). This, of course, will allow for a 'director's cut' version sometime down the road... we all know the drill.
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is really the only way to watch this flick. It was filmed for this format and watching from the front row of a curved cinemascope screen was awe inspring. I used to drive an hour to Montclair, NJ to watch it!
The film was incredibly controversial then and the arguments were pretty much the same as now, except the drug references have faded over the years. I would say a 50/50 split is probably better now than then. I would say it was more like 40/60 for/against back then.I've seen both the 165 and the 140 minute versions. The longer version contains lots of interesting details, especially on the space station, but little that advances the film. The cut minutes aren't really missed, although I must admit that I sure noticed the second time I saw the film - some months later.
I would reckon I have seen the film at least 25 times. Back in those days I was known to ingest certain "substances" which may have slightly altered perception, and "2001" was the ultimate "stoner flick." Psychedelic without meaning to be. OR WAS IT?
It is on my top-10 films of all time list. For what that's worth.
Hi Danj you old fart,is it really that long ago, 68? I thought it came out early 70s?
It is on my top ten list as well for the same reasons. I never really got into this drug thing (fortunately I lost the only trip I ever bought in Holland at the time, (where it was legal by the way) and I am glad now I didn't take it). But I find watching a movie like that or listening to certain music psychadelic enough.Also I think it is the parts that you don't see that make a good movie (like Hitchcock movies, which I love), you imagine the rest and that is much more than any movie can show me.
you have me curious to see this film again. i only saw it once at the movies. i remember it being interesting,i'd like to see it on my home theater and i will look for it. i hope it has good sound, remastered or whatever.
(i must have missed the psychedelic aspect of it. no one told me what film to see. so instead i guess, i went to an all-nighter horror flick show, watching films like 'freaks'. i made it to about 2-3 in the morning.
stepped out of that college auditorium. i had had enough!) :)
I like the movie very much as well. I like movies with atmosphere and this is one of them. There are a lot good movies in the style (French, German, Japanese, Russian etc) but so awfully few within the scifi genre.
I also liked Silent Running and Matrix by the way.
I think 50% liking is not so bad really since most people like action movies and loath movies without action.
I enjoy action movies as well as anybody else, but not if there is no plot and only action.
For the record, I like "2001" also.At any rate, I was looking over the selection of new releases in Blockbuster this weekend, when along comes a group of teenyboppers (that term shows my age, I guess). One of them suggested "The Shining", but this was rejected by the rest of the group. The reasons? It was "old" and "long"! And yes, it really was a new release - a newly released remake (like we really needed one).
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