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In Reply to: Re: Ebert essay on Solaris (Tarkovsky) posted by Victor Khomenko on January 20, 2003 at 12:07:57:
We might even discuss a watchable science fiction film for a change, like Robert Wise's The Day the Earth Stood Still, Stanley Kubrick's Clockwork Orange, Fritz Lang's Metropolis, Stephen Spielberg's AI or even Paul Verhooven's Starship Troopers, which is a genuinely enjoyable bug-flick and wicked political satire that's become one of my perenial favorite guilty pleasures!
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Well, the first three deserve discussions, although I don't see any sci-fi in the Orange, but please don't force me to say what I think about the Troopers.Funny you mentioned it though, as just today I spent some time thinking about it.
I wholeheartedly believe there are thousands of films that deserve discussion more than the Troopers. Most of them never get mentioned on this forum, unfortunately.
But I would really like to know from you which movies you mean (especially SF). If you could name a few please.Talking about SF satire, I loved "dark star" and found it extremely funny (maybe it is the old age...)
Oh, Geez, if you mean the movies I consider great - I have been posting on them for several years, so if you just do a search by my name you will find many, many.If you specifically mean the SF - that is harder. I don't divide the films into SF, action, whatever, I usually separate them into good and bad. I don't specifically love the SF, as there the story tends to dominate, and I don't value the story in film much, most of the time. Plus the very definition of SF is shaky at best. If it is something that is set in the world that doesn't exist, then there are many movies that would qualify - even things like Woman in Dunes. But I used to think the SF is supposed to be technology driven to large extent - space travel, strange scientific discoveries - that sort of things. In that case films like Solaris naturally qualify, the 2001 and even things like the Pi. But in a good SF film, in my view, the humans should dominate, their feelings and emotions, not how well the plastic figures are made. That is why I don't give one rat's breath over things like the Star Wars or that Troopers thingy.
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