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In Reply to: Me Too... posted by Rich S. on February 04, 2000 at 23:25:48:
1. 2001
2. Solaris
3. The Stalker
Boy, you ARE serious here... But careful, this kind of start is bound to produce no finish. OK, someone can certainly sit through the 2001 - enough things to look at to avoid overinternalizing. But then you go onto Solyaris - and things start getting heavy. Two great stars - Banionis and Dvorzhetski, not to mentions Jarvet and Solonitsyn (doing great work in the Mirror too, BTW), plus an incredible Russian beauty in the Soviet Union's own version of the wet t-shirt at -273K, plus about fifty minute race through the tunnels of Tokyo??? - but man, where is all the Sci-Fi stuff? It is all philosophy, plain and simple, there is no machinery to admire, no blasts from plastic weapons (Allien forte'), just pure meditation and inner thought.But wait, you really wanna push the poor fellow to the brink. You then go to the Stalker...... boy, this is so much beyond pure indulgence, it is almost dangerous. I have deepest appreciation for those who managed to see it in one setting. My wife, NOT an action lover, an introvert reader and gentle beauty cognoscenti, did it in three sessions.
I admire your choices. I would certainly add the Mirror to that list - since you are already so deep in the slow deliberate meditation and self-analysis. I would personally take the "Mirror" ("A poetic river of somnambulism", as someone put it so well) over the Stalker any day, there is just so much more human presence in that one, and a gorgeous actress to boot (Margarita Terekhova), and since you had just opened wide that door, I would put it into that strange Sci-Fi bin too.
Do you know if it had been translated?
How would you like to take a shot at it, petew?
I guess I am a sucker for these really slow moving movies. I first saw Solaris when it was re-released in Philadelphia 1991. I thought it was quite good. I think what appealed to me most was the lack of hardware in it. Don't get me wrong though I still looove the "Big Blow-em Up" type sci-fi movies. I also am a Farscape fan.
-regards,Rich S.
Sounds close to "Solarmanite". This term was expounded upon in
probably the greatest sci-fi film of alltime, "Plan 9 From Outer Space"
- 1959, written, directed and produced by Ed Wood Jr.
The expounder was spacealien, Eros, according to him "solarmanite" was a
way of exploding actual particles of sunlight (photons?), which is one
step beyond hydrogen bomb explosion, which he had said, "actually explodes
the air itself". Eros derided us idiotic humans for threatening to destroy the
entire universe through our imminent discovery of "solarmanite". He also
demonstrated via analogy to Jeff Trent (the airplane pilot) and Colonel
Edwards how this could occur. The model included envisioning the sun
as a gas can with a stream of gas extending from it to our planet, the
stream analogous to sunrays. Upon mankinds explosion of the sunrays in
our atmosphere, a chain reaction would result, the explosion following
the stream back to the sun, where the sun would then explode, destroying
all the planets in the universe. Remember "solarmanite" is not to be
confused with "solaranite", which is the way Trent and Edwards pronounced
it. - AH
"...That was too close!!!!"
"Plan 9 From Outer Space" is billed as "the worst film ever made"; however,
I don't think so; "Plan" does have redemming qualities, however unintentional - laughter is good for the soul. There are worst sci-fi
films, they are the ones that are also atrocious, but can't generate any
comic relief either. One of Woods earlier films, "Glen Or Glenda?", where he vociferously
espouses his liberal views on transvesticism, definitely qualifies for
that "total loser" category. - AH
I agree: "Plan 9" is entertaining while "Glen Or Glenda" just plain stinks and seems to never end. The latter is one of my Holy Trinity of Bad Films, the other two being "Mesa Of Lost Women" and "Manos, The Hands Of Fate". Close, but no cigar is the abysmal "Fat Guy Goes Nutzoid!!" from Troma Studios.
There's a film that Pam listed that I feel the same way about: "The Man
Who Fell To Earth" with David Bowie; Maltin rated it a whopping
***1/2 stars out of ****, citing its fresh, original script. Am I missing
something here? Was there supposed to be a dramatic story somewhere
or wasn't I looking hard enough? It seems never to end, dragging on and on and on, bored
the crap outta me, I actually became "The Man Who Fell Asleep" during
viewing.
Speaking of Troma, what did you think of "The Toxic Avenger" series?
-AH
Toxie I was better than II or III. Class of Nuke'Em High I was better than II (hey, the Smithereens RULE!). My favorite Troma film is "Tromeo and Juliet", good enough for the art house theaters and BRAVO, IMO. The one I never got into was "Troma's War", despite it being LLoyd Kaufman's favorite (enjoyed Kaufman's book on cheap filmmaking, BTW). As for "Femme Fontaine, Killer Babe for the CIA", it's like watching a rerun of Magnum, P.I. on late nite TV, except for the lesbian Nazis.I feel the same way about "Man Who Fell To Earth" that I do about "Liquid Sky". Spent a day with Bowie a few years ago and asked him about some of his film roles, but not THAT one. Figured he was still drinking his own urine at that time. "Walkabout" is a much better Roeg film.
I too enjoyd "TA-1" more than the last two; saw Kaufmann and crew in action
at the last televised Cannes Film Festival on E! Will have to see if I can
locate "Tromeo&Juliet", have not seen it, but saw it got a lot of favorable
reviews (even if by diehard fans) at the IMDb site. Your mentioning of "Femme Fountaine" brought memories of "Ilsa, She Wolf of the SS" for some reason. The high review
rating for "Walkabout" on IMDb indicates it must be more in the big
league. - AH
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