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Polansky did not let out ONE cliche, from Lubitsch he stolen a scene, from Spielberg a very little ( the gun that would not shot in the Schindler´s, will in this one ) And even if the horrible was true, it was never or almost not believable, read the book of Gray for the story of the Ghetto...
The story grows better. But it is still not a good film in my opinion.
Polansky lost his touch long time ago.
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...unless you forget "The Death and the Maiden" ("La Jeune Fille et la Mort"), from 1994.And, BTW, he has made some shitty things in the past, as that... thing named "Quoi?", whose only merit lies in Sidney Rome´s body, so generously displayed all along the "film"... ;^))
Polanski has been able to walk along practically every road in this business of filmaking, with such scary things as "Rosemary's Baby", or "Repulsion", some Shakespeare ("Macbeth"), flics ("Chinatown"), fine humor ("Le Bal des Vampires"), epoch ("Tess"),psychological ("Le Couteau dans l'Eau", "Le Locataire")..., and then things like "Frantic", "Pirates", "Lunes de Fiel"..., which I can only consider as "alimentary films" (done from the need to fill the fridge)
An interesting man! I hope he will recover his touch, as he has amply shown to be able to do great things.
Regards
BF
I did not see this one, but think of the Ninth Gate or Frantic ( one of the most horrible film ever )
What, I see this long time ago what a lamentable film, and yes you are fully right Rome´s body* was...terrific !
I am not optimistic anymore after seeing " Le Pianist " not that this film is so bad, but more of what an " real " Polansky could habe done with this fantastic material.
I write him of.
But, I cherish particulary " Le Bal des Vampires " and there are not so much directors who can left THAT kind of legacy !
I am glad I have it.* We all did go to this movie...for her...or mostly.....and poor Matthau he could have been so good in his role..Roman waste it all away.
underwhelming to the point of boring. Perhaps I was bored because I am NOT Jewish? I wasn't expecting an action flick and was taken aback at Roman's recycling of scenery a time or two. (Low budget?)
I also saw Brody's character lacking gumption and the willingness to stand for others. Quite the contrast to Fiennes in "Sunshine" who took the sub-zero shower for defiance.
> > underwhelming to the point of boring. < <Oh, I'm so sorry the portrait of a man in the holocaust does not entertain you!
> > Perhaps I was bored because I am NOT Jewish? < <
I doubt it. Plenty of people found this movie worthwhile. It had nothing to do with their religion.
> > I wasn't expecting an action flick and was taken aback at Roman's recycling of scenery a time or two. (Low budget?) < <
I read this comment of yours before. What other scenes would you like shown? The movie took place mostly in the Warsaw ghetto. Jews there didn't have a chance to get out much, unless they were being taken to Auschwitz, Belzec, Sobibor, Chelmno, Majdanekor or Treblinka. Perhaps you would have enjoyed the scenery more if the movie showed these places? I hope you never see a film on Anne Frank's story. That all took place in 3 tiny rooms where her family was forced to live behind a wall, until the Nazis discovered them. You would find that really boring and a "cheap" production.
> > I also saw Brody's character lacking gumption and the willingness to stand for others. Quite the contrast to Fiennes in "Sunshine" who took the sub-zero shower for defiance. < <
This sounds very much like you are casting judgement on Szpilman. What gives you the right? The fact is, the man was a musician, not a fighter, and had he participated in the Warsaw uprising he would be dead and none would hear him play the piano OR TELL HIS STORY again. Think about that.
I want to make it clear that I am not getting on your case because you did not like the film, but for your comments which I found utterly thoughtless. Everyone is entitled to their opinion--it is certainly not an enjoyable movie but a story that must be told. And Polanski brought it to the screen with deftness, solid performances and incredible imagery. That is my opinion.
no reason to be so passionate about it.Your reaction gives me the impression that you feel your opinion is the only correct one. You are one opinion and one viewer.
I did not find Brody's character particularly appealing or interesting. And, I don't quite follow your the comment about scenary. The production values did not follow through in my opinion. Maybe he didn't have strong backing for the project?
I wonder why Roman just didn't tell his own story? He survives today. Surely, he must have something to report.
Many, many people think this is a wonderful movie, I don't--and, the limited release points to a film that is not for everybody.
A lot of people on this forum have poo-pooed Schindler. I feel that it is a very strong, melodramatic film that finally got the point across to the general public about the horrors and random acts of the holocaust. That's what it takes. Schindler should be required viewing in history classes everywhere.
I would not say boring but I would say low budget. Brody did make a good performance, no doubt the one who did not was Polansky, his scenes look like " still pictures " put together, the problem his you can see it as you can how he tries to play with us..( all directors manipulate, of course, but you should NOT see it ).
Sunshine was another league, it was certainly more fidele to the real story of the Jewish people in Europe as I learn it.
In life they are characters for every ...taste!
Patrick, c'est ce bon!
Not the classic some have proclaimed, but I thought the emotion it conveyed---helpless passivity in the face of overwhelming brutality---was done so with great skill. The lead actor overcame the tendency to overact, so prevalent these days, and yet he managed to show the character "growing" as his will to live became stronger.
To be Jewish and see this movie---it may prove too wrenching. The tension never releases, it slowly builds and builds...and then builds some more.
An immensely sad experience, yes. But the fierce will to live and the unconquerable nature of the protagonist showed better than any truism the dignity of the human spirit.
Of course it depend from your culture if you like or not this film, I do NOT like it because of the BAD work from Mr. Polansky.
The main figure may be fascinating. ( I read an interview with the real Spielman)
But the film is not.
Polanski stayed close to the true story. He documented more than directed. The worth of the film *is* the worth of the story--and it can be watched on so many levels.As an ultimate portrayal where anti-Semitism leads.
As the man stripped of his possessions, stripped of his home, stripped of his dignity, stripped of his family, stripped of his will to fight, stripped of his health. . .and still he could not be stripped of what he had learned deep in his soul from playing the piano, which ultimately kept him alive.
As the personification of genocide.
Albee called it a "droopy eyed" performance. I would like to know how one keeps his eyes from drooping when he has nothing to eat and is dying of jaundice. A bright eyed actor will not be particularly convincing. You accuse Polanski of "stealing" the scene of the nazi shooting his gun. There were enough instances of that to make a million movies and still not "steal". Or did you think the same person was being shot in "Schindler's List" (which really did offend me as a big hollywood production) as in "The Pianist"?
If you watch it as a political statement, it is of course, moral and well balanced ( good/bad/ German/ Polish )- By the way the guy who played the SS oficer is the son of our ex neighbour..)
But, for a film I am more demanding that to follow the story line, I want more than a documentary ( and the best example for understanding the true history of the jews in central Europe has been already been film " Sunshine " neither a good film but the exact description of the jewish life around the century till the dark age of mankind )
The stroy as you said is beautiful, BUT the way it is brought to the screen is not, and that is the problem, the reasons I see are in my first post. And again as a statement it is of course not only valuable but a necessity.
What offend me is in the scene is all the personn ( we ) are waiting for the revolver NOT to fire ( as in Schindler´s ) but of course it did.
The second ( they are more ) is the citing of Shakespeare ( if they...) who was the invention of Lubitsch in To be or not to be, in my eyes the BEST film ever ( in the Fiction / non fiction category).
This one is perfect, nothing compare to it.
The second one is " the Great Dictator " with the most genious scenes ever, but the last half hour is too melodramatic and out of focus & sentimental even if considered as an utopia and a so well meant statement, here again a political statement did destroy ( not sooo badly ) one of the best film against idiocy and foolishness of our mankind.
I was in Auschwitz and I could feel the intention of Spiel / man/ berg.
Even if the Jewish community arfound the world found it too sooft and not " real enough ".
It was at least more than an honorable effort.
The Pianist was not " a bad film " I just have wanted more. Polansky lost HIS touch long time ago.
And I fear he will never regain it, ever.
Think of " The knife " and even his satire " Le Bal des vampires " was marvelous and so Jewish...perfect.
is like omitting "The Godfather" from Coppola's résumé.
Was the " ecetera " and believe it or not the firt thinkink this morning was that !!!
Le locataire & repulsion are worthy to mention.
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