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In Reply to: 2001 once again posted by edta on July 04, 2003 at 09:27:09:
While all of my friends did like this movie, I never like it more I despite it it is shallow and boring..maybe if you are under LSD.......
Nothing compares to Barry L.
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a poor man's "Tom Jones," to which it is inferior in pretty much everything, except cinematography.
Ryan O'Neal was, perhaps, the greatest single casting mistake of Kubrick's career.
Still, one cannot escape the fact that the movie lacks pace and is boring as hell. When a book lags, one can turn the pages faster. Unfortunately, a viewer is at the director's mercy.
Or the guy who took for woman the beautiful Vivian ?
If anything it would be the rich man film but in fact they do not compare..yours is erratic at best, mine is pure genius...save the to realistic intellectual ( but unavoidable ) end.
Ryan was just a puppet and as such..did not played any kind of...role.( if you see what I mean )
For me it is a feast.
Your analogy with books is not valid...if you have an remote....
C'mon, to use it is to destroy the director's vision...his rhythm, pace, style. Either it stands originally as made or not.
(Tom Jones? Good one!)
It was just an analogy...I suppose when you read a book and scroll down the pafes as you say you destroy the writer´s vision too...
And many have a problem imagining out there. I suppose they might find it boring and shallow. Wish I could remember Blaise Pascal's quote about the loneliness of space. To that one could add the awesomeness of it, the spectacle of it. And the shock that comes with the realization, that we are not alone is this vastness of energy and blazing movement. And Kubrick presented this mostly visually.Now I'm not criticizing you personally. I fully understand the appeal of the more "humanistic" of Kubrick's movies. It's really a different strokes thing. And 2001 IS definitely about the religious impulse, awe, if you will. Perhaps that's a big one to get over for some people. We know, Kubrick was an atheist, at least I've seen that written.
BTW, Barry didn't fare very well against fate or destiny after all, did he?
In fact I firmly believe that it is the LACK in one´s imagination that led to the liking of this film.
We are not alone...hum...that may be your view...and an LSD film will certainly not be an absolute proof...pas vrai, mec ?
Of course, I am not critising yourself personally...why should I ?
Pascal was one of the few you can call" integre "in my eyes....and I will rebuy his " pensées " for the X time..as his book should never leave´s one side even his physical% experiment prooves are not all true today anymore...
Barry L. has the fate that every one of us has sooner or later...if you like it or not....
How long can you got an happy end? How long can you take it ?
Stanley K. darkness was sculpt in his genes. So was his films.
if you come upon Pascal on this. Something about being scared of the vast spaces. I've had a hint of this while viewing some videos of real space and some astronomical photos. We are the speck upon a speck, hurtling through the limitless void. One random asteroid, etc. could wipe us out in an eyeblink.
I will. But Pascal is very reassuring...Metaphysic....think of Alban Berg´s Wozzeck...it makes you dizzy....but that is the reality, we are ...lost in space...every thing´s moving...pursuing a plan whose future is unknow to us....it is like a small death in our life time...
Let´s drink.....
Patrick, I'd like to share a drink or two with you. Where would be a good rendezvous? And when? I'll buy.
hehe..any time you are around...I´ll buy.
Around where? France, right? City?
Germany, Frankfurt.
Or Montpellier ( beautiful ) in October....
It is the Kubrrick's film at the other extreme of the 2001. One can view it as many times as one wishes, always be troubled by new thoughts and impressions.As the film offering a unique and seamless combination of a story, music, visual art, acting, character interplay and development, mood - both incredibly sad and joyfull, bredth and multitude of underlying flows, this work is simply unmatched in the history of movie making.
That is why I always put it on my however-short list of best films.
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