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In Reply to: Leonardo DiCaprio - 9, Founding Fathers - 1. WAY to go, AMERICA!!!!! WE ARE NUMBER ONE!!!!! (for now, anyway....) posted by Victor Khomenko on February 07, 2000 at 11:24:46:
"Strange times are these in which we live when the old and the young are taught falsehoods in the schools of learning. And the one man that dares to tell the truth is called at once a lunatic and a fool…" - Plato-Joe.
I have heard it million times and it certainly has some truth to it, but there is simply no denying the fact that many generations do have their own flavors.Understand, that he was talking in RELATIVE terms. People tend to forget it. I am not sure Plato would survive an hour in one of our classrooms today. So you are not getting off the hook that easy...
My thoughts were a bit different. I thought "even in Ancient Greece they had bad schools!". Luckily, Greek civilization survived the mediocrity of some of its' classrooms to last for many centuries after Plato had shuffled of this mortal coil. Will the USA?There is another great quote by a Roman (Cicero, I think) where he is complaining about the young people of his time having no respect for tradition and authority and being lazy good-for-nothings (I will try and dig it up). Plus ca change, eh?
-Joe.
***My thoughts were a bit different. I thought "even in Ancient Greece they had bad schools!". Luckily, Greek civilization survived the mediocrity of some of its' classrooms to last for many centuries after Plato had shuffled of this mortal coil.By about 400bc it was all curtains. They killed Socrates. Earlier their mob banished the best and brightest. Not quite an enviable record... kind of like high school bullies taking over the control and banishing the teachers...
***Will the USA?
I think it will... but it will be changed...
***There is another great quote by a Roman (Cicero, I think) where he is complaining about the young people of his time having no respect for tradition and authority and being lazy good-for-nothings (I will try and dig it up). Plus ca change, eh?
Many things are relative, plus the societies come, reach peaks and go...
> By about 400bc it was all curtains. They killed Socrates. Earlier their > mob banished the best and brightest. Not quite an enviable record... kind
> of like high school bullies taking over the control and banishing the
> teachers...I'm not so sure we are talking about the same thing. The Greek Empire grew and became stronger under Philip of Macedon and of course Alexander the Great, his son. After that, it declined until the Roman invasion, But even under the Romans, Greek civilzation (language, philosophy, art, religeon, etc.) continued until well into the Christian Era.
-Joe.
which is seldom mentioned. We've been fighting devolution since.
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