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In Reply to: The liberals' problem is not with Gibson, nor with the film. posted by clarkjohnsen on August 05, 2003 at 09:22:02:

"Liberals" are the scapegoats of the uneducated and selfish.
Tell us what "liberals" believe and why you think they are against Christians. Do you really know or are you just repeating the same old right-wing rhetoric?
By the way. I am a Christian who attends Church regularly. I try to practice what The Bible teaches. THAT IS WHY I AM A LIBERAL.

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The fact remains -- - clarkjohnsen 08:58:35 08/06/03 (6)
It is liberals who have the problems here, yourself a case in point. And I didn't say liberals have problems with Christians, I said they have problems with recognizing a Higher Power (than their own minds) and its immutable Scripture.
clark
- Immutable scripture? - Tom �. 09:09:56 08/14/03 (0)
  I've previously made up response to posts in this and other threads regarding this movie but I decided not to post. In this case, I have to say something: what is written in the bible has never been immutable and it's folly to take it as an accurate description of history or even as a "Message." It has been changed, interpreted, reinterpreted, edited, and generally slanted over the millenia to serve political and personal motives each time it had been altered. To suggest that your stereotype of a group is afraid of scripture because it's "the truth" reveals your own prejudices and baseless assertions.
  Now, in regards to the movie and why jewish organizations are quick to criticize: as I see it, it was a crowd of poor human beings at their worst behavior who tortured, jeered, and humilated jesus. The crowd was persecuting jesus because he was a rebel leader who turned out to be a farce (to them). It just happened to be that romans were the oppressors and the oppressed were mostly hebrew. The hebrews didn't get jesus killed because of their religion. They did because they were human beings whose poor condition made them bitter and quick to persecute. It's no fault of the religion and the belief systems of that religion.
  Anyway, it's all a bunch of posturing from both sides.
  Tom �.
- You have to be putting us on............... - danj 00:27:37 08/08/03 (2)
  So, everyone who disagrees with you is a wrong-headed anti-Christian liberal? You can't be serious!
  Try tolerance. Go ahead, give it a chance. It won't hurt and you just might learn something.
  Down with anti-semitism. Down with fascism. Up with people.
  If Mel Gibson has made an anti-Semetic film - shame on him. But double shame on Medved for condemning something he hasn't seen and for Bill O'Riley for - well, just being what he is.
  Conservatives I have no problem with but I've had enough of right-wingers bashing those they disagree with. Why don't you guys stop blaming the Clintons and liberals for all the problems of the world? There has been a right-wing administration for all but 8 of the past 23 years and much of the blame for the mess we are all in belongs on their narrow shoulders. Sure, Clinton was a disappointment but certainly no more so than his Republican bookends - Reagan/Bush and Bush.
  Being Liberal = Being anti-Christian!?! Amazing leap of logic. Par for the course these days. Liberal bashing is a part of the right-wing power grab and their portrait of liberals is a big fiction, bearing scant resemblence to fact. As a liberal I am damned tired of hearing it. You have a right to your opinions as do I but you do not have the right to insult me. You may disagree with my opinions as I certainly disagree with yours but insulting me does not prove your argument, rather, it weakens it.
  Don't waste your time, or mine, by submitting a follow up. As far as I am concerned this subject is closed.
  - "As far as I am concerned, my mind is closed." Thank you. nt - clarkjohnsen 07:39:17 08/08/03 (1)
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    - Look in your mirror, pal, if you want to see a closed mind. - danj 18:42:21 08/10/03 (0)
      And this is, for sure, my last message on this subject.
- Re: The fact remains -- - Super Nintendo Chalmers 08:55:09 08/07/03 (1)
  That is obviously not what you said. Go back. Re-read your original post. And stop retroactively moving the goalposts of your argument.
  - "That is obviously not what you said." - clarkjohnsen 09:09:48 08/07/03 (0)
    "That is obviously not what you said. Go back. Re-read your original post." I have taken your kind suggestion to heart.
    Original: The liberals' problem is not with Gibson, nor with the film. It's the Christian Scriptures they're gunning for!
    Followup: It is liberals who have the problems here, yourself a case in point. And I didn't say liberals have problems with Christians, I said they have problems with recognizing a Higher Power (than their own minds) and its immutable Scripture.
    Yourself: "And stop retroactively moving the goalposts of your argument."
    Now: I was consistent in my location of the liberals' enmity. So enough with the patronizing already.
    clark
Christ was no liberal - Larry I 07:29:00 08/06/03 (0)
"Rich man... camel... eye of a needle." What? Was this Christ fellow a f***ing communist?

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