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I had always as far I can remmber an allergie on flashback. I think the director when they do NOT know for the continuity of the film they make " an tour de passe " et voila....
Tell me in which film it is really a part of the film?
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pioneers of the mixed timeline that became so fashinable with Pulp Fiction.
...also, Once Upon a Time in America w/ Tuesday Weld and others is series of long flashbacks that span a period of 40 years or so.
It fits in the very bad film category whose sake whas the " inovative way " to surprise his spectators...But it wonīt make it a good film....
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But there was a lot at this time!
Films reflect the time and worries....
Or would there be any way to make that wonderful film, without those flashbacks, and dreams?Regards
BF
It is a part of the film. Here no abuse. No lack of fantasy.
It is the masterīs hand.
L īexception qui comfirme la regle.....
But cher ami you will surely agree that most flashback in most films are a pain...I wonīt precise.
Or isnīt ?
Yes, the very first few second and the very last...that will not disturb the flow of little Rosebud.( by the way do you know what Orson meant and all the hate with Randolph..)
...who was some kind of Murdoch in those days... And that small thing about war against Spain..., and then Murd... oops, Hearst tried to stop him, and later he did everything he could to kill Orsonīs career...Tonight Iīm going to see Orsonīs "Don Quijote"...: did you know about that one? It seems to have run the same fate of Eisensteinīs Mexican film... not finished, while he worked on it for quite a few years... Jesus Franco ("La Buena Estrella", and excellent film I strongly recommend to you) somehow put everything he left together, and maybe this is kind of a worldīs premiere... and it will be in TV!
I feel more than a bit anxious...
Regards
BF
Well Rosebud was the name Hearst had for a part of Marion Davies anatomie ( his lover ) Orson learn that and put it in the fim..Hearth was more than furious.
Yes I am aware of Don Quichote it was " His " chimere...I think he work for thirties years on it...
Do you know that there is again an aborted film on the same subject? ( Depp )
I will watch out.
Salut,
Patrick
I did because of Leo, not the flashback.
Atually I do not have a copy of it. BUT there was a scene that I did really love in this film...When the camera makes this long travelling and every thing come to life again..the colors.. the laughters...the memories...
pretty good
Not bad, but ....
Patrick,I agree that the flashback technique is very rarely well integrated into the story and tends to break the stream of events. Flashbacks may not be as annoying (to me) as people who suddenly break into music and dancing, but it is often a way to establish events and characters that would be time better spent in the "real time" action. I would rather that any necessary history be done before the "current" action begins.
It does require far more intelligence to impart history to characters without blurting it out. One of the reasons I think "The Third Man" is so brilliant is the way Reed avoided cheaply revealing the character of Herry Lime in flashbacks- it would have been so much easier, but completely destroyed the whole mystery. The Kevin Costner version will be very different!
The one movie in which I think flashbacks are are nicely done is "The Godfather Part II" in which the juxtapositions of young Vito Corleone in old New York - and all the traditional realtionships- contrast to Micheals' modern alienation and the breakdown of tight family> neighbourhood> society structure. Remember the flashback scenes of young Vito and his family life immediately contrasted with Micheal's conversation with his mother, "Can a man lose his family?" In this one case, I think the flashbacks really effectively show how the world changed around the Corleones and strengthen the story.
Still, that success is very rare. My mother used to groan when a flashback appeared as, "time for another episode of 'Flashback Theatre'".
Patrick, la fois prochaine nous pouvons parler d'un autre problem de film : ordres d'reve !
Cheers,
Bambi B
The second nuisance is when as you said..they break into music like in this horrible French film " Les Parapluies de Chebourg ".
The Third man was never one of my favorite, even I do respect it, and all is well set in this movie from brillants actors to B&W...but I misse something, maybe it try too hard to be a film noir...the camera angle did not work too well maybe..it was no " Rosebud"...
Another film that did work with this technique was " Casablanca ".
You mother was right.
What do you mean with : ordres de ręve ?
I know what you must feel all the time with my bad English....
Bises,
Patrick
Patrick,I liked "The Third Man" probably because it had just that little touch of the surreal- but not too much to become fantasy- something I generally like in Bunuel too.
With "ordres de reve" I was thinking of "sequences (what is better to say than 'ordres'?) of dreams" as another kind of break in time in films. And similar to flashbacks in that these are difficult to do well and can contribute or detract from the story.
Now dream sequences are often replaced by virtual reality: "Total Recall" and "The Cell" for example. The new techno-public must find virtual reality mre convincing than dreams.
Je suis desole avec le sujet de mon Francais- si une voiture il est egale a une 2CV rouile. Mais votre anglais est tres expressif et a parfois un genre interesse de qualite poetique.
Cheers,
Bambi B
Bonsoir,
Bunuel are more like " daydreams " who comes true...erotically speaking, of course, he used them for his acid social critics...particulierement contre l īÉglise...
Maybe.."serie de ręves"...
As long you are not la 2CV..rouillée, pardonnez moi mon manque de respect....
Merci!PS: Jīadmire toujours votre point de vue!
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