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Only one or two scary moments. A pack of incompetent sailors, including an hysterical woman, save for the Captain and Ripley. A scientist who turned out to be a robot -- that was actually quite believable (reference to audio...).The alien was depicted as being non-sentient, yet it had the, um, good sense to attach itself to the emergency shutttle. What was up with that?
And WHY THE GODDAM CAT? Why have the sad-sack crewman chase it early-on for five boring minutes? Why would a *cat* stroll into a very wet environment anyway? Why did Ripley waste precious minutes chasing it herself, towards the end?
Just to show "humanity"? God it was stupid.
The director also let us down on the time-line. Once when two minutes were announced passed, it had been over three actually. Shortly thereafter, when four were announced, it had been only two!
Director's cut or no, who is this rank incompetent, Ridley SCott?
clark
PS Compliments to H.R. Giger -- but why did the alien have a humanoid form at the end, but not earlier?
Follow Ups:
""Only one or two scary moments. A pack of incompetent sailors, including an hysterical woman, save for the Captain and Ripley. A scientist who turned out to be a robot -- that was actually quite believable (reference to audio...).""Well, there´s more, much more in it than just that..., like an allegory (I shouldn´t call that a metaphore, for good reasons..., while a parable could define it well) of the way our world works. There´s more than a whiff of Conrad´s spirit in it: not just the name of the ship "Nostromo", taken from Conrad´s novel of the same title..., but a lot about the big frame, with power messing everywhere (that android wassn´t there by chance, the Company put it there) and corruption marring the possibilities of that crew to survive, as the Company gives that "perfect weapon" priority over the crew themselves...
Scott´s first film, if memory serves me well, just a couple of years earlier than "Alien", was "The Duelists", based on Conrad´s novel, so he was pretty familiar with Conrad´s universe, when he decided to make this film. So, maybe reading some of Conrad´s books (he´s been brought to the big screen several times: "The Duelists", "Lord Jim", "The Heart of Darkness", "The Foreign Agent", "Nostromo"...) would give you some hints to understand, and appreciate what this film is actually about.
What Scott was able to conjure up was much more than what you seem to have been able to find. And he was working with really competent people, at various levels, what allowed him to make a film that will stay fresh and alive for quite a long time. The sequels are forgettable, the original is excellent.
Regards
BF
...the patronizing, but no thanks. I have read Conrad already and that is just one of the reasons I find such fare as Alien, alien to higher sensibilities.clark
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(Spelling is right, don´t bother to correct me on that)Regards
BF
Mostly thank to uniforms and swords.
It was a scary-ass film. Alien is to movies what Led Zepplin is to music. The movie spawned an evolving genre of scifi and horror films that will continue on . . .Each passing year we become more jaded in our viewing experiences and movies lose their relevance. Ie., Chainsaw Massacre is now laughable, MASH is barely tolerable, etc. To that tune Alien may not impress you--just as Matrix 3 probably won't either.
I guess you've got a problem with Ridley's "Legend", huh?
Albee nailed it.It's all about context.
It's like arguing with a kid that thinks Citizen Kane is crap because he is (unknowingly) comparing it to all the movies that used it as a stepping stone.
I fell asleep during #1. #2, #3 -- not a chance!I'll leave it to you guys to ramp up the box office stats.
clark
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Hi,
in the books that followed the movies it is speculated that the Alien race was most likely engineered to fight a war. It is also thought they took the combatants of both sides out for dinner.......so to speak. It's a hive and in hives the queen has the most smarts. They grow fast, and since this one is a queen,she learns scary fast. While the saving the cat thing is dumb; dumb is often seen in crisis situations. But....to answer your question.... the movie turns on a couple of thngs. The first is that this creature is a parasite. Humanity has a crappy track record with parasite. Mosquitoes are small and dumb, and more dangerous than they used to be. Now consider what a large, smart parasite could do. This potential danger derives from the dystopia theme.
We get out into space. We control a good chunk of the galaxy; but one chance encounter decimates a group of humans with only one soul left to tell the tale. But mostly the 'fuss' is about what you like. I liked the Alien series a lot, even read a couple of the books.
The Alien in the first movie wasn’t a queen. Using the hive model, I suppose you could call it a soldier. The egg-laying alien queen concept was James Cameron’s, and though the creature design is clearly derived from H.R.Giger’s alien, the queen seen in Aliens was based on Cameron’s sketches.In the original movie, the scenes in which the alien “cocoons” its victims - and the cocoons somehow become eggs - was cut because Scott thought that they slowed the pacing of the end sequence. Cameron said that if they’d been left in place, it would have precluded the creation of his queen character for Aliens.
Quite so. I had the book on the making of the original movie including a stela in the large dead alien's ship that showed the life-cycle of the nasty aliens and there were no queens. Each and every alien could reproduce itself asexually by planting an egg in a victim and wrapping them up in a cacoon like a living larder that would eventually turn into one of those pod things. In all, a much more terrifying concept since they don't need a queen to reproduce and take over a planet. But, then they had to go and make a bunch of space westerns out of it, and you know they gotta have a big guy in a black hat for a western. /_-)
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How dreadfully unlucky for our heros that out of all the leather eggs lying around, he had the misfortune to pick the Queen, without whose transformative capabilities the movie would not have made sense.Not that it did...
clark
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Pity you were so wrong. But will that teach you to curtail the patronizing?clark
Not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I just thought I'd increase my caché by damning something generally considered excellent by the same director.
I think Blade Runner IS piece of crap.
--Someone has actually heard of it--- and seen it.
--It's an American movie.
--It is NOT a visual barbiturate.
Blade Runner is in my top ten. One of the great modern movies.
I recently saw Black Hawk Down - on a free channel, of course - and the price was about right. One of the worst movies I have seen last year - an achievement, really.Scott is a shlock director, one of many shlock directors whose movies produce income for the studios - THAT is his job, not making contribution to art.
(nt)
...be expected to acknowledge huge lapses in plot, dialog, timing, character etc. etc.?Granted I am a severe critic, I didn't have to exercise my powers on this insignificant piece a' claptrap. It wasn't even fun!
clark
> > > "Granted I am a severe critic, ..." < < <Have you just been granted British citizenship or is this tendency toward understatement a new fad you're embracing?
> > > "...I didn't have to exercise my powers on this insignificant piece a' claptrap." < < <
Ignoring the pretensiousness of your statement, let's just agree that your opinion is subjective and perhaps informed by a prejudice against the genre.
> > > "It wasn't even fun." < < <
Picking the wings off of butterflies might be considered fun to a child, but picking apart popular movies requires a more mature, smpathetic, analytical approach, don't you think?
AuPh
I hate to admit, but clark is right here.A popular movie! To the Big Mac culture only.
Of course we all know that Clark isn't part of the Big Mac culture, but using your fast food scale as criteria for calculating the nutritional value of his arguments, I'm still left with the impression that Mr. Johnsen's criticism of Alien is light weight.AuPh
Matrix Reloaded's CG robotic-loader-suit really sucked! Not that it would have saved that movie. What was with all that narcissistic pontification?!
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