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In Reply to: "Who actually writes like that?" In this day of public-school training... posted by clarkjohnsen on November 26, 2003 at 07:25:31:
Pseudo-intellectuals writing right-coast elitist clap-trap for other ivory tower wankers isn't my idea of inspired critical appraisal. FTR, it seems to me that you both are trying to slip personal politics into this discussion of Master and Commander. Mr. Michael A. Hoffman II Esq.'s overblown-me-down hyperbole in the first and last paragraph is implicitly parroted in your cracker wants a Polly "In this day of public-school training..." header.Like I said in my comments before I enjoyed the movie and generally agree with the substance of the critic's conclusions as to the quality of the film. It's his analysis, and your's, of the film's value as propaganda with which I differ. Had he simply stated that The Patriot was a weak film because certain scenes were so preposterous that they ruined the film's credibility, while endorsing Master and Commander because Peter Weir chose to be more faithful to the period detail and mannerisms from our distant contemporary perspective, then his critical analysis would've ranked much higher in my estimation.
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Had he simply stated that The Patriot was a weak film because certain scenes were so preposterous that they ruined the film's credibility, while endorsing Master and Commander because Peter Weir chose to be more faithful to the period detail and mannerisms from our distant contemporary perspective, then his critical analysis would've ranked much higher in my estimation.Pretty much says it all. But "overblown-me-down hyperbole" and "your cracker wants a Polly" are truly chioce words!
Real nice talkin' words, AuPhi.
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I think where Hoffman was right on was in criticizing the general air of bonhomie and the overall (relative) cleanliness. I thought about that during the film, but I shrugged it off because it was entertaining. Still, it would be nice to see a movie about sailing life that looked and felt as grimy as the real thing. And I know about the real thing, because I was, in fact, a whaler in the 18th century. Hee hee...Wouldn't it be great if someone could pull off a really killer Moby Dick?
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was a byword in RN ships at the time, Rhizo me old mate. Sweeping and cleaning, bedding (hammocks etc) aired as often as possible.They washed all their clothes regularly, and swam when ever possible,n often in a sail lowered into the water to form a pool.
Yes, they didn't wash often, butno-one else did either. BUT all RN crews expected to find any other ship, especially merchant-men noisomely filthy and smelly even from a distance, excepting East India-men. Spanish and French warships were notoriously dirty.
I loved the film, just BTW.
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A long time fan of the Huston film, I thought the TV miniseries was pretty good. It is available on DVD. Check it out if you haven't seen it.
Yeah, but unfortunatelly it'll probably be some outfit like Exxxtacy Home Video! ;^)
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