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American leading actors?
I'd have included Sean Penn in the category, but he seems to have gone the way of the former big three in playing to his persona----angry and over the top ("Mystic River").
Robbins, Depp, Cruise...none of them have the "weight" to portray complex, powerful characters.
Did I leave anyone out (I thought Brad Pitt had a chance after "Se7en" and "Snatch," but he's done less-than-nothing since).
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on wether the planets are aligned correctly, but when they are...he manages to pull it out of his.....hat.mp
Fear and loathing in las Vegas Del toro and depp together. Depp's performance is unusual and creative. Del toro is great as well.
Ever see dead man? Depp plays a character who is at the mercy of his environment, but his performance is powerful and haunting. I like the actor who starred in Quiz show (the snitch). He commands attention in a uniquely subtle way.:o)
mp
and doesnt he just steal the Show as the nutty Herbie Stempel?
I heard John Ritter died suddenly, hope that doesnt spoil your day
Nothing to do with J Depp, sorry
Eric
I have enjoyed his acting for a long time now...when I posted, I had a mind block and was just too darned lazy to do a search. He was fantastic and usually is.What is with the John Ritter info? I'm confused with that....please explain yourself young man!
:o)
mp
fans of John Ritter a few weeks/months back and you mentioned a couple of comedy roles he had been in I hadnt yet seen; your comment for one being that he made a wonderful drunk?!
Anyway, unfortunately my information is correct, he died a week short of his 55th birthdayEric
at least he went out with a bang and not a whimper...approached death with full gusto (if you can find anything positive about death...at the least he did not suffer greatly) I am suprised you had just heard of the news though.His "drunk" was comedic perfection. He was just the "guy next door." You felt you could see him at a barbeque and he would be just your average joe. I miss him too.
:o)
mp
I think your criticism of Sean Penn actually applies to late-career DeNiro/Pacino/Nicholson, all of whom are among the worst of the post of their own name-making period. I see the same person (put actor's name here) or character playing their lines or emotions (rather well) but not characters or roles; I think the distinction is easily overlooked. I have the same problem with Anthony Hopkins. I'm sure it has a lot to do with type-casting, but it's type casting that the actor's in question are accepting. They keep playing the same characters over and over. Where's the challenge? Penn's different, but the critics overstated the accomplishment of his overblown performance in Mystic River.Phillip Seymor Hoffman, I think, is among the best actors working today. He labelled as a "character actor", which is meant to be dismissive or ancillary but, but which taken literally describes what you'd want from any actor. Watch a handful of his performances back to back: his ability is astounding. I read a piece on him once that referred to him as a human chameleon. I think that's right on. But he's not leading-man material. He's beyond any leading man in ability, but doesn't have the look.
When you think of it and the characters he has portrayed, doesn't he rise to the top of the list?And many earlier stars played "themselves" and rarely strayed from that.
Agreed on all points.I think most big hollywood stars are mainly good looking men and women with strong, compelling (or at least inherently theatrical or dramatic) personalities beyond which their acting ability rarely if ever strays. They may be good, even excellent actors, but only in so far as one might convincingly play for people in one's day-to-day or interpersonal or intimate relations emotions that are plausibly one's own as opposed to reinventing one's self as someone else entirely. The latter requires considerably more skill, but for most movie goers the personality-cult that draws them to the theater (and on the basis of which most movies are marketed) blinds them to the limits of the former.
actors as have ever been around together...but they're not REALLY leading men, are they? The greatest leading actors have something heroic about them, but the three aforementioned are almost anti-hero types. Great actors, though.
although I think he's yet to have his Godfather/Raging Bull/Cuckoo's Nest. Someone needs to give him a really killer lead role. Looking forward to seeing him in '21 Grams,' although I've heard some not-so-great things about the movie.
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