Films/DVD Asylum

Posted by Bambi B on December 07, 2003 at 17:47:03

In Reply to: Re: A renewed adniration posted by Victor Khomenko on December 07, 2003 at 12:16:38:

Victor,

Good points and close to the central idea of "Inherit" of open mindedness. I agree completely about the ending with Spencer and Kelly seeming too much of a casual appendix, when in fact it constitutes one of the two main points- people need to find a point of view in order to find structure (I hate to use the word "meaning") by answering the Big questions to our own satisfaction- but- but, we have to believe it internally and not have it forced on us externally. This happens only in a conditon of inclusion of fact, opinion, history, and associated emotions (culture)-and when it becomes dogma- a set of of conditions of compliance to belong to a group- free will is lost and the person becomes an automaton in the service of others' ideas.

This idea of external and internal authority is one dear to me. This is my problem with religion as opposed to spirituality- the extrenal authority of religion- "We're right, we've always been and always will be right, and if you disagree with any part of the set of conditions of the group- you're damned and might get your head knocked as well." The idea of external authority needs greater and greater force for compliance and if the population is deprived of full freedom of choice outside of a context of dogma, totalitarianism results: religion, communism, and capitalism unbridled all end in their extremes denying free will. We can see by the failure of free will on a lrge scale by the fragmentation of religion into sects, and politics into parties and extremism by the way these two schools of thoughts rely on dogma- and even or clearly by the necessry enforcement.

I think "Inherit" has these two components in force: the necessity of free will in creating a set of personal core beliefs- in "Inherit" the rejection of Darwinism is a subjugation- and secondly, it is the responsibilty of the individual when having this great gift- and it is so hard won it can only be thought of as a gift- to discover the macrocosm of meanings for themselves in an environment of inclusion- in our example, the warning of Tracy to Kelly. In this way, I feel a bit better about the ending having integration to the first idea- they are inseperable. I agree completely that this second principle- that of personal responsiblity should have not been a "P.S" to the movie.

Now, just let me climb down off this soapbox..

Cheers,

Bambi B

PS: I would very much like to have your thoughts on my little Neo-Alchemical project, which like traditional alchemy involves "microcosm" and "macrocosm"- the subatomic to creation of the Universe, Unfortunealty, my text is already over 400 pages- as you know I never use one word where six will do- and far from complete! The main premise has to do with the evolution of matter (subatomic'unifed field> atomic> molecule> proto-life> life >and back to subatomic) within a hiearchical set of increasingly complex systems that then revert to simple and unified field. It is the relationship of simpler systems within an environment that causes a complexity that then reverts to simplicity - mainly about cycles and oppositions. You can see how naive and simplistic a quick explanation sounds! Oh yea, thanks, I'm sure THAT explains eveything in the Universe!"

When I'm further along, I hope to derive a unified theory and in which the eventual 900 pages I've planned can be expressed in one paragraph.

PPS: I'm glad you mentioned "Outside" outside of Outside. There is so much intelligence and energy there crushed into gainsaying by dogma, posturing and others' agendas. I suppose it's a fun as a sport, but sports are too reliant on keeping score..

I'm convinced that if we could get Vinylly, darkmobious, Audiophilander, LWR, edta, DUI, and the usual cast all in the same room and properly plastered, that site could probably achieve World Peace if there were any survivors.

I recommend brandy for this kind of job.