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saw this tonight in a triple feature marathon, along with Timeline and The Missing.If you haven't seen Billy Bob and his black dwarf sidekick yet, then try and check it out before it leaves the theatres. This is not a movie for kids, so leave them at home. Also, if you have a problem with the word 'fuck' being spoken every 15 seconds, or in seeing Santa as a total drunk, you might not like this flick, but it's something to behold.
The other two are more suited to video, although the bad indian witch in The Missing was a pretty vicious character, worth loathing.
Timeline has some neat Middle Ages battle scenes in it, but that's about all.
Take care, Chris
Follow Ups:
I am a fan of Thornton, Ghost World, and am as fed up with commercial Christmas cheer as anyone, but yes, I do have a problem with the language in the movie. SR below is right about the borderline child abuse. You who like this movie must not be parents. Yes, I saw plenty of under 17s in the movie, with and without adult accompaniment.Your sermon for the day, mock it all you wish: It makes me sick how low we have sunk as a society and really can't believe that this thing is screening in American theaters. Go to xanga, read at random some kids blogs, and tell me that the culture and media aren't affecting their language. Am I the only person bothered by this? My dad would have whupped me into next Christmas had I begun to utter even one of these words publicly. But oh yeah I forgot, there aren't any dads anymore. Meanwhile, most of these kids can't think, spell, reason, or calculate. End of message.
Bad Santa has a hard "R" rating. Under 17 not admitted without a guardian. The movie is WAY not for kids, accompanied or not.That you saw many under 17's in the theater is the fault of the theater, not the movie.
This is America, I reserve the right to be able to see grotesque adult comedies that make fun of graphic sexual content and drug abuse. Just as much as you reserve the right to not see it, which is what you shoulda done.
This film and others like it are not the cause of the decline of today's youth anymore than video games and Marilyn Manson are. The media only reflects it. The cause is the lack of parenting. Like you say, my dad woulda kicked my ass for acting up like that, but most dads today wanna be a pal and not a father.
WRT the Child Abuse of the child actor: You have no idea what the comprehension level of the kid in the movie is. It's THEATER and these people are acting. Do you really think that kid couldn't differentiate between reality and the movie he's making?
You and your Pappy probably don't like South Park either.
I don't reall think 'kicking you into next week' particularly makes a good Dad, even if the little shits seem to need it, now and then. :)Later
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No, I don't think so either, but believe you got the gist of the post. Not an advocation of beatin' kids for cussin', only wondering if we all, including film makers, should be a little more morally responsible. If the movie can be presented without question, then I guess it really doesn't matter. Thanks for the humor of your post.
OK it's pretty much one joke all the way and it gets a little old, but there are some big laughs- and that's a rare thing.
I truly loved this movie.It is about as tasteless and over the top as a mainstream movie can be. The sexual content is striking in it's myriad perversions. While it has a relatively happy and redemptive ending, it in no way pulls it's punch or goes soft the way virtually every other treacley holiday film does.
Director Terry Zwigoff (Crumb, Ghost World) continues to show that his vision of the fringe of society is right on target.
My new favorite X-mas film.
I mean, I don't know what was his biggest flaw?His total lack of manners while eating the salad at the mall in his Santa suit when the lady and kid approached? His total hard core drinking of Old Grand Dad by the mouthfull? His utter indifference to language when around kids. Lack of bodily function control? His being basically a safecracking bank robber? The way he moved in with total strangers and took over the entire house and car? Or his sexual prowess?
This was a classic for the ages.
Funny, but I was listening to the University Of Miami's VOICE OF FILM show on the radio last week and the guy stated that he was in a big threatre with a lot of seniors, who one by one, begain getting up and leaving as the film progressed. I guess that they didn't read the reviews?
Take care, Chris
Chris,
I agree...however, I think you must have a penchant for "black humor" to really appreciate Billy Bob as Bad Santa.
I saw the film with five others, and I was the only one (sick and twisted enough?) to really enjoy it.
I even laughed at the foul language...this has got to be a new record for dropping the "F bomb" in a film.
I even find something funny in the image of a guy in a Santa suit, sitting at a bar with a drink and a cig in his hand...juxtapostion of themes, I suppose.
Happy Holidays!
Gary
but the whole dialogue was really something out of this world. And he wasn't just drinking, he'd slam back like four large shots in two minutes. And then the dressing room scene with the 'yeah baby, you ain't gonna shit right for a week' line was just too much, imo. You do have to be a bit warped to enjoy this one, but what the fuck?Chris
I don't have a problem with an adult Santa movie, but there are comedic things, deeper than repeated over the top use of the F word which could have been explored, but weren't. It kind of reminded me of the lack of imagination and taste displyed so well by Howard Stern, day after day after day. I also have a problem with dragging kids into the gutter language. There were several lines of dialogue that delivered to a room of adults may be funny, but delivered in front of and to 7 - 12 year olds during the filming of the script borders on child abuse.This film is not amusing.
Steve
I think that could have been toned down a bit. And, yes, Billy Bob makes his roles sooo real. He is a dirt road treasure.BTW, the opening voiceover while he was at the bar was totally priceless! This movie smelled like the Farrelly brothers. Liked it.
personally, I can see where some people like SR wouldn't find it funny, but there are people that one comes across in life, that really talk that way. I've met a few and it seems that they have no clue as to how they're speaking. Swearing is just second nature.As far as child abuse goes...ya think?
Anyhow, BBT is the epitome of trailer trash in this one and he alone made it an interesting snap shot of somebody who shouldn't be having kids.
Chris
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