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In Reply to: Someone's really good explanation of why LOTR has bored me and so many others. posted by clarkjohnsen on December 21, 2003 at 13:50:15:
It is a difference in what you are used to? Old School v New School, as it were.The obvious aspect of enjoyment of opera is actually liking the music. If a person doesn't, chances are they won't get very involved with a story told in a foreign language.
What films do you enjoy?
Do you like foreign films?Later
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I like all good films.I am repeatedly on record as saying that my three faves are Orphee Negro, The Wicker Man and Nights of Cabiria. The *section* of film I've viewed the most is The Wall (first half-hour). Those are all "foreign".
However, if Hollywood turns out a good yarn, I'm there too. Smiled throughout Pirates of the Caribbean, for instance.
clark
I just grow weary of a certain critical attitude, which this leans toward. One that pits one art form against another, as well as one type of art to another is quite misinformed and futile, IMO.I also enjoyed POTC, but I would never compare it with 'Wings of Desire', 'Lonestar', 'Brazil' or 'Diva'.
How did you like 'Mysic River', 'Intolerable Cruelty', 'The Secret Lives of Dentists', 'Dirty Pretty Things' [british] and last year's 'Mulholland Drive' ?
I think the LOTR series is entirely enjoyable, entertaining and extremely well done. Perhaps a comparison to the Star Wars series and the three Matrix films is a decent way to look at them, rather than comparison to opera....
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more than 20 minutes?
A digital ineptie, not worth of the title " film ".
... he's right about Pirates of the Caribbean, IMO. I went into the theater with reservations about this flick, but came out with very positive impressions! Look, to really appreciate Johnny Depp's anti-heroic pirate character you need to listen to any interview of Keith Richards over, let's say, the past twenty or so years. The reading of this character is almost side splitting! IMHO, Pirates is an excellent film, hadsomely produced, paced and plotted, with wonderful tongue 'n cheek moments that never rise or rather lower to the level, of pure comic campiness!AuPh
A terrible film. And donīt tell me to compare Keith" I donīt know who" for judging the quality or not of a film!
I did go quite happily in this film having the fine irony of the Flynn in my back mind...
Depp only face expression is horribly boring in this film, after a few minutes, and the take over of digtal effects is to this film : fatal.
You did only follow your wishes for a good film, missing therefore the triste reality of this poor flick.
I have not viewed this flick.
I did not too.
Maybe I will, as I feel some magnetism in the Crown machism own way...
This is just one style of pirate flick; indeed, there are others. I'm sorry that this one disappointed you so much, not having been "in like Flynn", but perhaps one has to been in the proper mood to appreciate Pirates of the Caribbean as the fantasy-pirate movie it actually is. It's light on history, but fast paced and more of a send-up of pirate genre cliches than rousing seafaring adventure; I won't bother going into the special effects, since CGI stuff isn't everyone's cuppa tea.Aaaaargh, matey, YMMV! ;^)
AuPh
I did not want to have another " Flyinn flick " 50 years or so later, I just did wish that " Pirates " reaches his quality or even surpasses it !
I was in a proper mood for taking myself out of myself, but the film just could not realise it.
My loss if I could not, your win, if you could...
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