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• Well, there is this small difference - Tadlo 08:33:00 12/23/03 (5)
  In Reply to: Yup, just like I missed the great sociological insights of posted by tinear on December 23, 2003 at 08:03:52:

  The sociological insights of "Pretty Woman" you missed because they aren't there. I don't think it is just your ear that is tin.
  
  

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  • Au contraire. The sociological insights ARE - tinear 12:03:17 12/23/03 (2)
    In Reply to: Well, there is this small difference posted by Tadlo on December 23, 2003 at 08:33:00:

    there, hence the film's outrageous popularity. It is the quality of the insights which are lacking. Similarly, the pseudo-philosophical blatherings of LOTR are great pablum, for the masses.
    But, hey, maybe I missed them. Could you please share what intellectual strengths you found in this epic? As a fan of Beowulf, the Aeneid, etc. I'd like to know.
    After all, one is alloted so much time to enjoy art: one must be selective. What makes LOTR so worthy of one's time?
    
    

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    • Re: Au contraire. The sociological insights ARE - Tadlo 16:39:24 12/23/03 (1)
      In Reply to: Au contraire. The sociological insights ARE posted by tinear on December 23, 2003 at 12:03:17:

      I briefly touched on a few points in another post in this complex of threads. I don't have time for much more, and I don't think you are really open enough to the possility of the Ring having some literary merit to make anything I might say plausible to you. LOTR has been said to be the most detailed depiction of a fantasy world in all of literature. It deals with the universal theme of the conflict between good and evil, and between love and the lust for power in the context of an imaginaary world described in incredible detail, complete with the characterization of another language. The metaphysical and ethical underpinnings are essentially Christian, rather than pagen, which yields some novel and interesting variations on the classic mythical themes. If you don't get off on it, hey thats ok with me. But there really is a great deal of literary and philosophical substance that you are missing. I hate to whip out any unverifiable credentials, but I say this as a professor of philosophy who has some capacity to recognize literature that is rich in philosophical content.
      
      

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      • Ok, fair knight, I yield the field. But still, I think Mallory's much - tinear 11:57:43 12/24/03 (0)
        In Reply to: Re: Au contraire. The sociological insights ARE posted by Tadlo on December 23, 2003 at 16:39:24:

        terse effort, Le Mort d'Artur, is superior (and I won't go into "The Song of Roland...").
        
        

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  • Re: And didn't Wagner... - rico 10:28:29 12/23/03 (1)
    In Reply to: Well, there is this small difference posted by Tadlo on December 23, 2003 at 08:33:00:

    himself borrow from Icelandic and Norse myth and legend to construct the "Ring"?
    
    

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    • One knows one has stumbled into fantasy-land when - tinear 11:59:14 12/23/03 (0)
      In Reply to: Re: And didn't Wagner... posted by rico on December 23, 2003 at 10:28:29:

      there is a comparison between Wagner and...Tolkien.
      
      

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