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In Reply to: Movie cliches - A New Year's Resolution posted by Bambi B on December 29, 2003 at 14:34:46:
My favorite - the underdog who is badly abused and beaten, but who always glances at someone in the audience and uncorks the new power reserve... whereby proceeding to beat the living crap out of his opponent.
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In the last Lord Of The Ring there must be at least three to four coming miraculously back....
It drives us towards the lowest denominator fast.Learning requires straining.
Hehe..But I have the stong suspicion that the director did want to pack all the things he could not realise during the three hours film in the last 15 minutes..a never ending story after 2 3/4....
The sad side is that people do find this failure good. I think the fantasies they did develop reading the book may have help them to transform a piece of merde in something that the alchimists would call gold.
Shit it is shit it will remain for all centuries.
Did you see it?
To paraphrase old Stradford-upon-Avon..much noise for nothing....
You know, there are different kinds of dreck, or merde as you put it.There is the kind that I can and will and have watched, and either laughed along (The Dumb and Dumber, for instance... sorry to admit), or cheered along (things like Death Wish or some Eastwood films), or enjoyed - in the short term, of course - for the miriad of other reasons. I dunno... some female beauty... some humor... whatever. Should I mention the Clueless? He-he...
There are many trashy films that I have watched more than once - several Stalone and Bruce Willis films, for instance. I know they are trashy and do not contribute one iota to the world of art, but there had something in them that made them entertaining.
But there is another kind of shit that is put simply, so boring I refuse to watch it even if I have nothing better to do and it is the only film on the cable.
The Star War is one such example. The LOTR is another.
Having seen the clips I knew I would not like it so I never saught it. But when a friend stopped by to watch it, I tried to watch along... well, I wanted to leave the room after a minute.
My wife stepped into the room, watched for ten seconds, then shrugged her shoulders, made a face to me and left. I stayed a bit longer.
So given that experience I will not see the last - who knows, maybe indeed the last... can we hope? - film in the series.
As I always say - I probably have only see about 10% or less of all good and great films in the world - so why should I waste my time on stuff like LOTR?
Everyone has the right ( almost said the duty! ) to be stupid once in a while..so looking at stupid films and having fun is like forbidden sex in the chidhood....I really enjoy " Le Diner des Cons " or " Le placard " not corrifees among the film world.
Or when it came out I did like " Star Wars " obviously an inept show.( I respond phrase to phrase to your post..so I did not read your mention of the later! )
Stalone the first of his boxing film was ok but then his face was so stupid and selfish that I could not but having a urge to vomit at it...I did enjoy to see Willis until his " only one range face " did hit my nerves...the first " Die Hard " was fun, back then.
I always try to ( from time to time ) for staying in touch with what do move the kids today, to look at all kind of films...but with more and more wearyness...I long ago stopped with books...I just mostly reread MY books.
That is certainly not a good evolution..or better said no evolutation at all.
But with the firm feeling that 90% of todays output is just " kaka " what else could I do?
The Dinner Game I missed... I remember seeing it many times on the shelf, but never picking it up. I think I will now.I just LOVED that one comment by a viewer called Varlaam... hmmm... bet my dollar he is a Russian emigre'... or a Georgian, perhaps.
Anyways, sez Varlaam:
"France's most popular film of the past 52-week period, according to a recent issue of Studio magazine. That's based on the number of admissions in France, over 9 million.
What is wrong here? Why have the French been flocking to see a movie which is very funny, very well-acted, and very un-American? LBJ's old hatchetman, Jack Valenti of the MPAA, is trying to figure out ways right now to force the French to watch more bloody idiotic American asteroid movies. How dare they try to have a film industry of their own."
Bummer...
The dinner is FABULOUS! Certainly one of the best " French arrogant comedy of the last 10 years!
I look at it...to my ( false ) shame three times..and I am not coming to an halt...
The closet is very funny but do not have thit intensity.
One word.
Go BUY it and your whole family will like it..It just call the bad things burried in us to the surface....
In the end the moral´s morale is of course saved.
Get it.
Saw it. It was a minor sitcom of a movie. As clever and dynamic as an episode of "Cheers".
As I do not knows " Cheers "...
But if the translation is not I fault, our opinions it seems diverse widely.
The assholes dinner is a gem.
Of course you need a certain kind of French arrogant humor...
Yes, it could be that much of the subtlty was lost in translation. Subtitles leave out the sarcasm and the tone of speach.Of course, this goes both ways . . . perhaps this is why so much in American movies fails for you too.
That is a BIG problem, but you can still recognise the quality of one film.
I look as often I can to the original copy.
Don't know "Cheers"? Believe me, you haven't missed much.
No, I don´t ...mieux vaut une tete bien faite q´une bien pleine....
Victor,Or: Второй ветер в ломается третьем акте..
I agree, the idea of "apparent defeat" in which the hero appears to have lost- but then makes a miraculous return to win the battle- is insanely over-done.
There are times when someone makes these kind of recoveries and it seems pluasible, but not the way shown. I notice that in videos of real fights, one or two punches and the fights are usually done, but in the movies these guys go at it for ten minutes and-
Cliche 35: The hero is in a big fight and the hero is not cut, swollen, or bruised in a way that makes them unattractive- if at all. An "hour" later there is often hardly a mark on them.
Cheers,
Bam
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