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In Reply to: Racism? Be more specific; it must be VERY deep "under" because I only see the "lying" part. posted by Audiophilander on January 08, 2004 at 09:33:21:

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Aryan Elves? So what's that make the Balrog? - J.R. 08:44:29 01/11/04 (0)
"Of all the elf-banes, the most deadly". Perhaps the Russian army
advancing on Berlin? Regards,
J.R.
It's a fictional world; they elves weren't trying to conquer it. - Audiophilander 17:00:50 01/08/04 (4)
I see no reason to unduly complicate Tolkien's work with PC elements that detracts more from his mythology than adds to it.
AuPh
- Whoa, the British Wagner? No man is without prejudice, politics, and opinion. - albee33 18:44:35 01/08/04 (3)
  Maybe there is a lot more to his works than perceived. Afterall, Henry Ford, Chuck Lindbergh, and King Eddie . . .
  - The British Wagner? That's ludicrous. - J.R. 08:35:44 01/11/04 (0)
    Well, English is a Germanic language. Tolkien was a highly respected
    philologist and held the Rawlinsonian chair of Anglo-Saxon at Oxford
    until his death. The ancient Germanic languages are very similar: if
    you can read Anglo-Saxon, you can get by in Old High German, Old
    Saxon, Old Frisian, Old Norse, etc. He used the literature and glosses
    of the old Germanic for many proper names in LOTR; for example, the
    dwarf names are mostly from the Old Norse poetic Edda; "warg" is Old
    Norse for "wolf, "wetwang" is Old Norse for "swamp". This hardly makes
    him Wagnerian. He scoffed at the notion that the ring of Sauron was
    the same as the Nibelungen ring, except that they were both "round".
    The racism slur is preposterous and offensive and tedious worst kind
    of PC thinking. Tolkien was a original and creative writer: he was
    influenced by many ancient Germanic sources, but not ruled by them.
    Regards,
    J.R.
    BTW, the elven names and language are Uralic (Finnish in this case)
    in form.
  - "No man is without prejudice, politics, and opinion." - Perhaps, but we're not talkin' about ... - Audiophilander 22:50:53 01/08/04 (1)
    ..."The Wit & Wisdom of George W. Bush" the autobiographical pamphlet here, are we? No siree! We're talkin' about the highly regarded works of JRR Tolkien, one of the foremost 20th Century literary authors and a man who made a point of not wearing his politics, prejudices or religious views on his sleeve! Tolkien reputedly said as much himself in denying the symbolic nature of his Rings Trilogy and it would be nice if folks would have the decency to respect the late author's word.
    BTW, Hank Ford, Lindy and would be King Eddie are far from literary giants even though the former two are well respected for their personal successes. The fact that all of them made poor philosophical/political judgments doesn't necessarily reflect poorly on their personal achievements, does it?
    AuPh
    - Re: "No man is without prejudice, politics, and opinion." - Perhaps, but we're not talkin' about ... - patrickU 00:40:23 01/09/04 (0)
      It does if they are poisonning the air around with faschistoid " Gedankengut "
No they were not Nazis. - dennzio 16:49:24 01/08/04 (1)
They didn't have a "Final Solution" to rid the world of anybody but themselves. The Silmarillion might clear this up for you.
- Re: No they were not Nazis. - patrickU 04:05:46 01/09/04 (0)
  No, they did not have a " final solution " but their thinking bring to the road to...
  And more bitter, some have not learnt the lesson.
  What KZ? What Jews or Gipsys...

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