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In Reply to: Wrongo-Bongo posted by Troy on January 14, 2004 at 17:21:43:
A pale imitation of US films?
Well even if now it is increasily becoming true, as the people being increasely and completly stupid in all parts of the world after seeing Big Bucks without brains but with a lot of boum boum-- the perfect commercial machinery without soul & eating too much Mc & Cola.
American movies are just for most of them, a big industry, a permit to press $.
If you can not see that then you must be blind.
The key word is, be it food or wine or every thing we consumes..Industry.
Somewhere we lost our souls.
The only thing that gonna save us as an individual is " dirigisme " .
As to forbidden yourself to watch this tons & tons of shit coming down, till you drawed into more.
Give me the name of ten films of US / Hollywood origin worth to look at in the year 2003.
I could not.
Follow Ups:
A truer statement you have never spoken. I don't have any idea what the typical day is like for you or Europeans, but for many here, we are victims of what I have dubbed "The Encapsulation Theory." Here it is in a nutshell: people get up in the morning and get ready for the office....they leave their house and take two steps into their garage, hop into their car, hop out and take a few steps in the outside air into their air conditioned office building...leave the office building and head for the gym for an indoor workout...hop back in the car and head home...park in the garage and enter the house for the evening. There is very little communing with our natural earth surroundings. We are not in touch with the earth, we are encapsulated. We have lost our soul connection to the earth.This is why I love mountain biking, hiking, camping, and climbing. I feel more alive in the outdoors, more connected. Office buildings equal disconnection. I would never survive in a Corporate America scenario. And movie theaters...don't get me started. Excuse me Patrick, I must now run outside for some air, I'm suffocating.
People are basically every where just the same, cultures may and are different, but not persons. The naked man is in his diversity just the same.
YesI know what you mean, but on the other side most people do need a kind of routine..that is reassuring....that is what we did learn from day zero and before in mother wombs.
Of course there is the intelligent routine, the reflected one and the dum one..the one you spoke of.
Most are lacking the necessary courage, be it moral or physical.
We build houses and towns, big one small one and they do rhytm us to sleep...but is is a lure, our own illusion we need to go day after day....
Thank you for the picture of fresh air....
1. Mystic River
2. The Human Stain
3. Cold Mountain
4. Elf
5. Finding Nemo
6. Master and Comander
7. Monster
8. Lost in Translation
9. 21 Grams
10.Something's Gotta give
Worth....of course in the sense of beeing unique, measuring to the work of the best....
In your sense most of them may be worth to look at, and with the exception of Nemo & Elf I will check them...But is one of them a masterpiece?
I doubt it.
I consider Eastwood's adaptation of Dennis Lehane's "Mystic River" a masterpiece, yes.
One out of ten....But it would be worth. I can not comment as I have not see it, but I know that Clint is getting better and better since his film on J. Huston...I will have a look at it when on DVD!
And comment.
Another Clint effort I highly admire is his adaptation of "The Bridges of Madison County" from 1995. He acts as well in this and his character and that of Meryl Streep have wonderful, believable chemistry. I have a laserdisc of it with Dolby Digital sound and prefer it to the DVD since the DVD is not letterboxed and laserdisc DD is better than DVD DD. "Bridges.." has a wonderful sound track and must be the quietest sound film ever made. I use it as a demo to show friends and visitors that we're all not into explosions and car chases (at least not all the time).
I can not say that for this one! I found it very lame...The score won´t help me...As i did not like his " Unforgivable " or what was it...much too violent!
While I can appreciate that you didn't care for "Mystic River" I hardly think it fair to refer to it as "very lame". Not with its acting, writing, and directorial restraint (Eastwood never once gives us a Hollywood type view of the Boston skyline even during a scene on the Mystic River Bridge; he just lets the bridge loom over the neighborhood).
I too consider the Bridges just a mediocre movie. To me it bordered on irritating... that given two actors I like... so I really don't know what made it that way - perhaps the distinction between a simple story and a shallow one - I don't know. But I honestly haven't spent much time thinking about that movie after watching it - this is usually an inportant sign, and I never even put my thought on it in any order, so I am going by just an emotion.
I could have not feel it better.
It was just shallow.
Sometimes I think those guys should try to see the " original* " the master band...instead of generation XXXX.* The original** is of course as old as the earth..No copywright...
** just someone was a better catalyst as others..
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