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Well, the "tecno stuff" is what sci-fi is all about!

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In Reply to: As I said, it had its moments, but not enough to make it into a work... posted by Victor Khomenko on February 03, 2004 at 19:17:42:

Few films, such as Solaris, for instance, can do w/out a certain amount of the "gee-whiz!" stuff. But, these are very different movies, one purely about the impact which technology can effect upon emotions and the other, well, I listed several above.
If you prefer, one can summarize 2001 in one sentence: the history of the human race. I don't believe any other movie has attempted so large a statement, or come anywhere near its accomplishment. Kind of like the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel...on film.

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You broke the code - I do not like sci-i films... - Victor Khomenko 06:07:53 02/04/04 (1)
...if all the movie has to offer is sci-fi.
Solaris has plenty to offer besides the primitive effects, so it has a strong leg to stand on, both artistically and philosophically, and the 2001 has some good stuff in the artistry area, none in philosophy (unless you indeed consider the question: "Are we alone?" a deep philosophical question...:-)), but its emphasis is on effects, so it lost me quickly. Sure, back then these were near revolutionary, but today... who cares?
- Who cares? Well, don't you think we are becoming more alienated? Consider how - tinear 07:57:01 02/04/04 (0)
  we're communicating, for example!
  How many of our asylum members live in different cities, away from their grown children (or children of divorces)?
  Now, add space, more techo wizadry...and our tactile humanity becomes that much less "physical" and intimate.
  So, in sum, the depiction of technology WAS a critical part of the movie----how it can even threaten mankind's very survival.
  Is there a more originally scary (and yet, poignant) moment in film history than the "killing" of Hal by Dave? "Dave, DAVE!!---I can feel my mind...."
Re: Cappella Sistina. - patrickU 05:21:51 02/04/04 (3)
If 2001 is the story of the human race, I would prefer not to be a member.
Ok, the transition of the apes to another world was brillant. And some other parts too.
But it remains empty, like a Cary Grant LSD trip, it was just all ouside without very much inside.
It was just a " pseudo " film.
- Well, of course you don't want to be a member of - tinear 08:01:14 02/04/04 (2)
  THAT future. Such immensity of change is terrifying. That, I believe, is the point of showing the embryo---he will only know a futuristic world; he will be at home in it (we don't miss huddling in a cave, frightened by a saber-toothed cat because we don't "remember" it).
  Think of 2001 as a sci-fi cousin of "Lost in Translation."
  We're well on our way!
  - Re: Well, of course you don't want to be a member of - patrickU 08:42:24 02/04/04 (1)
    The Lost- is coming soon to my shore.
    I wonder if I will or not see it the way Victor did. her first work was a little bizarre but I had the feeling more for the sake of being.
    5 never had the wish to look at it twice.
    - Very different films: I disliked Virgin Suicides and loved LIT. nt - tinear 09:47:03 02/04/04 (0)
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