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hi,
the title was very accurate. After Nicole stopped taking her clothes off, i fell asleep. There appear to be two reasons to watch this movie.
The first has been mentioned, the second is as a cure for insomnia.
The Nicole bashing is way out of line, IMHO.I think she was deserving of a Best Actress nod this year for EWS.
As far as Kubrick films are concerned, it was interesting and suspensful.
As far as the sex, I wasn't going to this film expecting a porn flick, and I didn't get one. No harm, no foul.
Hey, I liked Cruise too. And Kubricks wacky music and camera work were great.
Tranny
Time will tell with this one.
I thought Kidman was the best part of the film and that was good! She was appropriately moody and dreamy and mysterious. I thought Cruise was pretty bland and the suspense kinda fell down towards the end. A little preachy about the whores.Not nearly as bad as Victor thought but not worth buying. Will rent.
Maybe buy someday on sale. ((A Kubrick fan))
I enjoyed the movie, too. Good acting; a suspenseful, enigmatic plot; thoughtful direction...I'm disconcerted with comments like Victor's below to the effect that the "orgy" scene was slow-moving, or that the actors in that scene moved in "walking-dead" fashion. The scene is meant to seem dream-like, and those qualities help Kubrick achieve that. Notice that the Nicole Kidman character in fact dreams an "orgy" very much like the one her husband has just been kicked out of.
Such cleverness (of which I think EWS is full) on the director's part doesn't necessarily add up to a good film, of course. In EWS, though, it's a kind of playful invitation to look at the film more closely. I suspect EWS will gain appreciation as time wears on.
Anyone know what language it was the chanter (guy with incense) was chanting at the orgy scene in EWS? Or was it just nonesense?
Russian. I believe he was chanting the opening to Shostakovich's 14th Symphony.
I always thought that "orgy" presumed at least SOME level of excitement. Here it looked more like a Soviet Politbureau meeting - slow, so long and boring that the floor was litered with dead flies, idiotic in its content, and with ridiculous walking-dead body motions.Before last night I would have to strain hard to find another example of such lame inept cinematography in my recent memory. Since last night there is a close tie - that Eyes "orgy" crap vs another load of trash - "The Other 9 1/2 Weeks". Wow, what a pile of steaming horseshit that one is!
Why would any IDIOT make such stupidity? Why would anyone pay to see it? Why did *I* buy that DVD? After first fifteen minutes I was ready to turn it off but kept suffering for another hour or so - can't really tell you why. My wife just kept on reading a book all through that trash with only few glimps at the screen and some snide comments. I just sat there baffled... That movie redefines the word boredom. How did they manage to get the finances going?
I bought it back when my local Best Buy had only few titles on the shelf, and never watched it - my old DVD player refused to play it (smarter than me, I guess). The new one didn't have any problem (must be from that cynical X-or-whatever generation) and gave me full taste of its honey...
Stupid, stupid, stupid...
Given my love for French interiors, I was able to find at least a small grain of consolation in that lazy stream of boredom. These shots plus some gorgeous views of Paris kept me going in some slow motion...
BTW, what has he done to his face?
nt
My wife and I rented both EWS and SOS over the weekend. EWS is boring, pretentious, and bizarre. While nicely filmed, I think reviewers were offering respects to a great director when giving it good marks.Summer of Sam I thought was very good, although disturbingly violent. Great buildup of tension, claustrophobia, and paranoia among a group of New Yorkers who know little beyond their immediate sphere of influences. A great study of how saying something enough, combined with some paranoia, can incite people to a lynchmob frenzy.
I also found the orgy scene in SOS far more interesting than the one in EWS.
The movies are rather different. Photographically, I like Eye Wide
Shut more than Summer of Sam; though I thought the dancing scene at the
disco club has some interesting shots. I wouldn't call SOS disturbingly
violent. It clearly has more historical significance that EWS. Also,
the orgy scene is EWS is much more explicit, vivid, never-ending, and I
think, much more *interesting*. Of course, depends on what you mean by interesting.
Hi,Somebody help me out here. I rented EWS from Blockbuster which said on it "Rated Version". In any case I didn't see any orgy at all. Some nudity but Cruise & his wife never have sex with anyone except for some flashes that Cruise was haveing of his wife with a sailor. Was I ripped off or is this sex orgy exaggerated???
George
Well, according to Victor there was no orgy. Call it what you will, at one point in that sequence there are several women standing in a circle. They disrobe themselves and spread out among the party guests for sex, but all the movie audience sees are a few glimpses here and there of people going at it. Suggestive, with lots of T&A and full (female) frontal nudity. That's all.Frankly, I'd avoid any "rated version" videos. Different people have different senses of what's offensive or inappropriate. The problem is, then, that one doesn't know what else besides the nudity has been cut by the censors/editors.
I think he just meant summer of sam was a much better movie, which i would agree with. very little about EwS was believable, which was fine, except that the main unbelievable thing was that the main character, mr. cruise, could have actually gone through medical school and now be a successful physician. he came across as a misplaced twit. kubric's direction almost saved it, but the story was just too weak. SoS was a strong story, with very strong acting, directing, and believable characters. but if you didn't think it was excessively violent, please see a clinical psychiatrist at your earliest convenience. ;-)
sure, the nod to cinematography might go to Kubric, but i'd rather see a good movie than a bad movie with elaborate cinematography. my $0.02
Summer of Sam was much better than Eyes Wide Shut??? Boy, EWS must've REALLY been horrible! I found SoS (how appropriate!) about as irritating as a dental drill, except my beloved perfect (NUDE!) angel, Mira...but will someone give this woman some career guidance?? YES, it was violent, YES, it had disco, YES, the characters were all immature idiots...GOOD GOD, how much can you take in one movie? ...and how does Spike Lee get funding for this shit??Cheers, Bill.
Not very kind.
... even though I have an affinity for redheads. I saw the writing on the wall with that one. This way I can remember her fondle ... err ... fondly in Batman Forever's Chase Meridian. All she had to do there was look impeckible, while Tommy Lee Jones & Jim Carrey stole the entire movie.
The third reason was to pay respect to the great master. Quite unfortunate that his last work was such a disappointment. I have gone mentally many times back to that movie and still can't find any reason to see it again. Perhaps that super-dated sex party spoiled everything - how could he lose his taste and touch in such profound and silly way?He deserves to be remembered by his great works, of which there were several. Among them - the Paths of Glory and Barry Lyndon stand above the rest, in my view.
But even he could not breath life into Nicole and make her less wooden.
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