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In Reply to: eyes wide shut posted by late on March 12, 2000 at 16:40:42:
My wife and I rented both EWS and SOS over the weekend. EWS is boring, pretentious, and bizarre. While nicely filmed, I think reviewers were offering respects to a great director when giving it good marks.Summer of Sam I thought was very good, although disturbingly violent. Great buildup of tension, claustrophobia, and paranoia among a group of New Yorkers who know little beyond their immediate sphere of influences. A great study of how saying something enough, combined with some paranoia, can incite people to a lynchmob frenzy.
I also found the orgy scene in SOS far more interesting than the one in EWS.
The movies are rather different. Photographically, I like Eye Wide
Shut more than Summer of Sam; though I thought the dancing scene at the
disco club has some interesting shots. I wouldn't call SOS disturbingly
violent. It clearly has more historical significance that EWS. Also,
the orgy scene is EWS is much more explicit, vivid, never-ending, and I
think, much more *interesting*. Of course, depends on what you mean by interesting.
Hi,Somebody help me out here. I rented EWS from Blockbuster which said on it "Rated Version". In any case I didn't see any orgy at all. Some nudity but Cruise & his wife never have sex with anyone except for some flashes that Cruise was haveing of his wife with a sailor. Was I ripped off or is this sex orgy exaggerated???
George
Well, according to Victor there was no orgy. Call it what you will, at one point in that sequence there are several women standing in a circle. They disrobe themselves and spread out among the party guests for sex, but all the movie audience sees are a few glimpses here and there of people going at it. Suggestive, with lots of T&A and full (female) frontal nudity. That's all.Frankly, I'd avoid any "rated version" videos. Different people have different senses of what's offensive or inappropriate. The problem is, then, that one doesn't know what else besides the nudity has been cut by the censors/editors.
I think he just meant summer of sam was a much better movie, which i would agree with. very little about EwS was believable, which was fine, except that the main unbelievable thing was that the main character, mr. cruise, could have actually gone through medical school and now be a successful physician. he came across as a misplaced twit. kubric's direction almost saved it, but the story was just too weak. SoS was a strong story, with very strong acting, directing, and believable characters. but if you didn't think it was excessively violent, please see a clinical psychiatrist at your earliest convenience. ;-)
sure, the nod to cinematography might go to Kubric, but i'd rather see a good movie than a bad movie with elaborate cinematography. my $0.02
Summer of Sam was much better than Eyes Wide Shut??? Boy, EWS must've REALLY been horrible! I found SoS (how appropriate!) about as irritating as a dental drill, except my beloved perfect (NUDE!) angel, Mira...but will someone give this woman some career guidance?? YES, it was violent, YES, it had disco, YES, the characters were all immature idiots...GOOD GOD, how much can you take in one movie? ...and how does Spike Lee get funding for this shit??Cheers, Bill.
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