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In Reply to: ART OR INDUSTRY? posted by patrickU on February 09, 2004 at 06:24:42:
Movies from Hollywood have ALWAYS been about money first.There were a lot more movies released in 1940 than there were last year. (mainly becuase TV didn't exist and 99% of Americans went to the movies every week to be entertained and watch newsreels etc.)
Yet how many of those 100's of 1940 movies do people watch in 2004? Probably less than 20 are available on DVD and VHS. The rest of the forgotten 1940 movies were pedestrian westerns, cheesy horror films, bad crime films and topical comedies that would be unwatchable today. They were disposable crap made purely for profit then and today they would be more interesting for their dated "time capsue" qualities than as actual, watchable movies. They were not art any more than most of the Hollywood films of today are.
The studio system was just a factory, churning out new junk every week. That anything good came out of it was a fluke. it was good in spite of the studio system, not because of it.
Every year there's a handful of movies that come out of Hollywood that are great movies that will stand the test of time. This was true in 1940 and it was true in 2003.
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about the money driving Hollywood from the beginning. It is amazing that the six or seven major figures there all had escaped from totalitarian regimes and yet each set up a mini-totaliterean regime within each studio where every aspect of the stars' lives were controlled. Then from this system an idealized small town (Capraesque) vision of "free" America was fostered, time and time again.
I donīt think so, it was about money but also about art. Today the art fade way living only the buisness left.
Just tell me where are the great directors and actors today. Of course we have some, but they all took some refuge in the independant niche.
The films you are speaking of were pure industry, like " Casablanca " but they still had an intreseque quality you will rarely find today. Where are the Fordīs, the Lubitschīs, the Wilderīs, the Hustonīs, the Chaplinīs, the the the....
All this films of the 30s and 40īs that still have no one wrinkle.
There were legions then, now they are rareties.
Just tell me where are the great directors and actors todayThe Coens, PT Anderson, Eastwood, Soderbergh, Mendes, Coppola, Spacey, Chris Cooper, Del Toro, Thornton, Law . . . I could go on . . . It's a different world today and acting and film has changed. I honestly question whether those directors of the 30s thru the 60s could compete today and vice versa.
Casablanca was a fluke. There were dozens of films similar to it with different casts and directors that stank and disappeared without a trace by 1950. That Casablanca worked was due to the right director, actors, cinematographer and script all being called onto the same project at the same time. It, like the best films of the time, were good only by kismet.
You continue to live in the past.
It is not a question of past or present. It is a question of quality.
Movies is just one part of the game as is music or books, or food & wine.
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