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In Reply to: Re: Because.... posted by Dmitry on February 15, 2004 at 20:09:44:
Le placard is the same as "Le Dinner " yes, it was nice, vraiment Francais.
Has been discussed here.
" Funny films " are even harder to " work " that dramas, what makes you smile?
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Both my wife and I laughed our behinds off on Le Placard.Maybe Dima is having a serious period in his life - too many things on his mind?
Le Placard was a nice one, I remember that we already discussed it.
Dima like Bernardo seems to have a different views as we mostly have on films.
For the first of the two it makes me NO wonder, but for the last I DO wonder!
If I may interject into your conversation -
These two films play like contemporary Hollywood comedies in French. Swap the title, language, cast some 2nd tier American actors and you get a perfect template.
Veber has been spending too much time on the West Coast. And it shows.
No interference at all.
No I donīt think that you are right, there is something intrinsically French in both of them, that could not match a US production.
Look what has happen to French comedy films after the Hollywood flavoring... dull, untastable and undigestable.
France as other countries always admire what the big oversea brothers were doing.
Always. Hate and love.
--No I donīt think that you are right, there is something intrinsically French in both of themI didn't say Veber lost it completely, of course they have French flavor, but not the French esprit.
They were not terrible movies, but remembering Veber's comedies of the yesteryear, these 2 couldn't compete in the same league.
It's tough to be consistently good in this business, I guess.
No, I must insist, they very well have " the French esprit " in " Le Dinner.." the typically arrogance, in " Le Placard " the way to act with Homosexuality in the French society today. That a more.
I lend Victor movies when I have them to lend. If he doesn't like some, no big deal for me, cause that's life.
You have carried on about this for too friggin long.I'll repeat -- I DIDN'T LIKE THESE FUCKING MOVIES
End of story. Either learn to live with it or continue to be boring.
I carry as long you do, and I stop when I will.
For Christ's sake it's a discussion forum, not a free lesson in good taste. I've got enough of that stuff; but if you're willing to support my movie library by your kind donations we can coninue on indefinitely.
A good start would be the compelte Kurosawa Criterion collection.
Let's not kill each other until we have a chance to see the last good movie.Then we shall commit irezumi.
Yep... would be nice to get most of the Criterion. About 80% I feel.
The two of you just killed me with this huge thread.--Then we shall commit irezumi.
I'm not getting no tattoos, sorry. Masha will notice almost right away, I'm sure of that.
The tattoo might be the goal, but if I recall it was the process of getting it that made all the difference... if you know what I mean...
His earlier works like The Tall Blond Man, and the Goat were funny, but I would not say the Closet and Dinner Game were any lower on laughing scale than the Tall Man. If anything they are more refined, with better dialogue. The dialogue in the Tall Man was quite crude by comparisson.Of course I only heard these in translation... the Tall Man, actually, in Russian dubbing, which usually was quite good.
I think we should have a rule here on discussing comedies - NO DISCUSSIONS OF COMEDIES.Sense of humor is the most individual of senses.
Kurusemaki[or whatever] tonight, baby!
***I think we should have a rule here on discussing comedies - NO DISCUSSIONS OF COMEDIES.Not even with AuPh? And he thought Closet was as socially significant as Philadelphia, except set in a more primitive society.
In Philadelphia, homosexuality was totally taboo, the very macho/ puritan way...The Closet was just the contrary in spirit ( more... What ? You are not homosexual, quel dommage! )
The best in Phil. was the singing of " La Callas ".
A wonderful actress on the Opera scene, a terrible one in " Medea ".
I don't disagree.Xe xe.
Tell me you didn't you pay $50 for the Dinner Game?! That's how much it costs on Amazon.
I see it there for $10... used. $13 new. I suspect that's what I paid.
I wouldn't imagine something like that.
There is an undeniable elegance, lightness and naturalness to those commedies, that you usually don't find the in the US productions... of course I have to admit - I am not too familiar with many TV productions, but generally that elegance is not something that survives the transplant. Everything tends to be courser and less subtle here.
Every country has his language & taste inside his language & taste.
You have to be born in it.
Translations are 99% worser than the originals.
1% maybe better.
If I look back say, 25 years, my perception was different. I am sure that was the case with you too.Do we generally become more philosophical and more apt at catching small details? Perhaps. Although in his case he is a great catcher.
Maybe.
Great arts, have many " facettes " it improves with you.
--Le placard is the same as "Le Dinner " yes, it was nice...
No further questions.
But I had one, what kinds of movies make you smile?
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