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I know why I never liked Bertoluci. With the possible exception of the Conformist I found all his films remind me of Hitler's and Stalin's architecture. Monumental in the bad sense of the world. Heavy. Not pleasing. Lacking elegance. Forgettable.I never cared for his trashy "cult" works - read: Last Tango. The 1900 made the passing grade, but broke no new grounds, and was as forgettable as your last visit to your family doctor.
So why did we go to see The Dreamers today? Well, it's been a couple of months since I saw a portion of the Last Tango, and its memory had faded out quickly already. Bertoluci's name is something I still believe belongs if not in the Great Directors, then at least in the Take a Look category.
That was before today.
After The Dreamers that rating will be reduced to "No F.... Way!". At least I know that is what my wife is going to tell me next time.
Angrily, too.
But today she was mellow, and I played good husband all weekend, so she agreed to go.
Man, did she give me earfull on the way back!!!!!!
There is the scene in the movie where the characters pulls out rotten meat refuse out of trash pile and brings it to the table.
That is exactly how we felt after that film.
The director seems to have exhaused his life supply of creativity long ago, so The Dreamers is simple a "stylishly" re-packaged old stale refuse... something most of us started finding boring when we were between 20 and 30 years of age. OK, maybe between 30 and 40... for the late bloomers.
If you are expecting to find any revelations in this recycled movie, look elsewhere. OK, you will get wonderful closeups of the genetalia of both genders. You will see a lot of other stuff you have seen thousands of times before. You will be bored during the sex scenes, just like the actors apparently were.
Was the director's greatest contribution to the movie art his showing us about 45 minutes of full frontal nudity? To be fair, the young lady is gorgeous, but I suspect I could rent several issues of Teens Do NYC and get even more... if that was my intention.
The director is straining to give us some "fresh" material, but scene after scene you recall having already having seen this in many films, most of which you can't even remember by the title... only the faint memories of those insignificant "discoveries" still remaining.
How many times can you be "shocked" by seeing three beautiful naked young bodies intertwined in bed? Boring............
Perhaps this is a fitting (hopefully) finish for the director who first stepped on the international scene by making the anal sex discovery... with butter, of course.
But for Pete's sake - that was in 1972. Why try to feed us the same stale dish after 30 years, the long thirty years during which most of the world had moved onto something far newer?
What a disappointment. Even for Bertoluci.
This is really unfortunate, as the movie starts intriguing... of all subjects it was about something quite interesting to me - the movie buffs.
The three characters met as result of their love for good films. How unfortunate they all played parts in one that is not destined to remain in the annals of this marvelous art.
Follow Ups:
Not all movies are great or terrible. then we have many different tyoe of tastes.
Ruben
Most people here tend to comment on the movies that had touched them strongly - either in a positive or negative ways. No one here is a revewer, whose job is to render opinion on every film that hits the screen - obviously resulting in many more shades.For instance, I watched six films this weekend, but only commented on two, I believe. The other ones had some interesting points, perhaps, but I didn't think justified any posts.
Add here one more category I would like to mention - the films from the important makers/actors. Such was my post (don't want to call it a review) on Gabin's last film, which was quite ambivalent, I thought.
I have not seen the movie (The Dreamers) but I have seen the Last Emperor. I enjoyed that movie inmensely. Is that the best movie I have seen? No, of coarse, but it is hard to believe that is a disaster of movie. Yet, someone just said that. In the other hand thatis what makes coming back to this site.
RubenSan Francisco, California
Some people paid $10,000 for an artwork entitled "Piece of Plywood", that was nothing more than a... well... a piece of plywood. I would pay $19.99 for it at Home Depot.I indeed found the Dreamers extremely objectionable. My wife and I had discussed it several times since then, and it ain't getting any better - only worse.
Why the link?
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Ruben
--With the possible exception of the Conformist I found all his films remind me of Hitler's and Stalin's architecture. Monumental in the bad sense of the world. Heavy. Not pleasing. Lacking elegance. Forgettable.Lots of strong words there. I won't respond with a counter-diatribe, but here are some Bertolucci films that I liked, at least the ones I remember as his -
Sheltering Sky
The Last Emperor
The Tragedy of a Ridiculous Man
Last Tango in Paris
The Conformist
Once Upon a Time in the West
Some of the most perfect storytelling I've seen on film.
Lofty pretentious piece of boring nothingness
Not a scene, actor, song, line of dialog or glimmer of humor to redeem it, anywhere
Film has already got what it really deserves; banishment to 3rd rank status at the videodrome, to be checked out ocassionally by those punters that know no better (until they have parted with their money and actually seen this; God help them)Awful, just awful
I probably would not call is just awful, but I agree with the first line... I thought it was pretty empty, except for a few O'Toole moments (I love that actor), but that was hardly enough to turn a mediocre film into good one.
The best thing in this film was the music.
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