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In Reply to: Gaz chambers starting in 1944? posted by patrickU on March 12, 2004 at 04:55:26:
No show me where and who said this. Reports in 1940 were of gas vans. November 1942 is the early date of use from my references at established camps. Wide scale actual gassing came later - probably as late as when Hitler and cronies began to see the inevitable loss.
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Chamber gas or chamber vans..I do not make no difference, the matter is when did the nazis started to kill this way, as or 1942 we both agree.
The thing is it's very difficult to pin down because there is no record of an actual order for the gassing written down anywhere. And from a group that was very very well documented.Much of the killing in Schindler's is cold blooded shooting. Harder than flipping a gas switch. Or it should have been. But they enjoyed doing what they did. No German was ever killed for disobaying an order to kill Jews. This little fact is rarely discussed and it's pretty big.
My psychologuy instructor once said 20-30% of a population borders on psychopathic and or sociopathic behavior. The Nazi's would draw such people. "I get to kill as many people as I want and not go to jail?" Great way to draw the puss of society to one group.
Zyclon B / 1941
Actually gas chambers was an inventions of commisars, in 1918, during Civil War in Russia. During 1918 - 1922, were killed millions of russians, ukrainians and others by "bolshevicks" - under Trozkiy, Sverdlov, Tuhachevskiy, Yagudi and so on... So Gitler didn't invent anything new- he just borrowed idea from "kommisars".Regarding racial theory and eliminations and "surgery" - it's was also stolen from USA "scientists". In 1930's were a lot of experiments and so on on real people, and it was (and is) even protected by the law in many USA states.. This practice was keeping until 1976 (last time in Sweden).
Needles to say, that everybody know that "Man of the year", by "Time" magazine in 1939, in USA was Gitler.
So, I'm just wondering, why people don't see to whom humankind should be grateful for mass-murder?
A resounding YES!
Of course not! But you can pinpoint where the " B " did go .
That no one was killed..Hum..I won´t swear...Toward the end of the war a lot of soldiers have been killed mostly under the pretex of desertion...
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