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Victor Khomenko

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In Reply to: Re: Another American-centric view posted by Len_ on March 14, 2004 at 11:01:55:

If this was an American movie forum, then what you are saying would hold water.
As it is, this is an international one, so for any one group - however prevalent - to hijack its national origin is arrogant.
I suggest we drop the stupid and divisive "foreign" label and simply state the country of origin of the film in question.
And yes, "American-centric" DOES carry negative connotation.
Today we have all the means to enjoy the diverse cultures the world has to offer, so let's not lock ourselves into one tight pigeon hole.

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Re: You couldn't miss the point by more - Len_ 12:21:50 03/14/04 (3)
I didn't miss your point. You have missed mine, so let me restate it for you again. This forum is extremely parochial in the scope of its discussion. It's really only a couple of people talking, and IMO, this has come to be by design. You folks drive off discussion of popular films, if you haven't noticed. It's nothing more then pigeon-holing in reverse.
You're arguing semantics. You read a lot of pretext into words instead of taking them for their literal definitions. I'll state it again: Foreign, to me, is anything situated outside MY place. It has no ulterior definitions beyond that. American films are foreign to the Chinese. Indian films are foreign to the French. German films are foreign to me. Isn't that simple? Judging by your post history, you love telling people what they should like; But please stop putting your personal definitions in other people's words.
American-centric does not have any negative connotation to me. Neither does any other ethnocentric viewpoint. We are all products of our upbringing and needn't make apologies for it. Again, this isn't to say we shouldn't broaden our cultural palette by sampling what the world has to offer (and more importantly to me, trying to understand how others' think). But seeing the world through ethnocentric eyes is perfectly reasonable IMO. And if someone doesn't appreciate other culture's works, who are you to tell them they're ignorant, arrogant, or stupid?
- Well, if you don't get it then you don't get it, but don't play a crybaby with us - Victor Khomenko 13:40:03 03/14/04 (2)
  No one is driving off any discussion here - if you don't feel like posting on your "popular films" then surely no one is gonna miss it... I am certainly not going to write your posts.
  So far you have done many posts mostly attacking my opinions - that is fine with me, but if you instead put your energy into writing about what you like, then you perhaps would not feel that left out.
  So I shall continue posting my opinions on the movies I see, and you may continue hiding yours - but please, spare us that snotty boy whine.
  - Okay, I'll post my opinions - Len_ 16:10:18 03/14/04 (1)
    You're a pompous jackass. Does that suit your fancy? Congradulations; you got me stooped to your level.
    I've posted in a grand total of TWO threads that expressed my disdain how you express your opinion. I didn't realize that constituted "many." I must've struck a nerve. Let's make a deal.
    I'll spare you the "snotty boy whine" if you spare us your arrogance. Seems fair to me.
    - Sorry, bunkie, no deal - Victor Khomenko 16:25:09 03/14/04 (0)
      I am not sure it came across clearly, but I really don't give rat's ass what you do or don't - so be your own guide.
      As I said, I post what I feel touches me - I think this is the only fair and honest thing to do.
      What you do is your business, I have no say in it. But if you decided not to bless us with your insight, then don't come here crying that the "popular film" you liked was not properly covered here - that's all.
      Anyways... it is a quiet period at the moment, as the cable channels seem to be full of kaka and nothing else... and I couldn't make it to the rental store this weekend.
      But I know the world is full of interesting films, so I am not gonna limit myself to regurgitating the Lost in Translation - I shall let Patrick roll his eyes in rememberance of her sexy voice - he-he... - and I shall wait for his reaction to "What Happened Was..." - which was not, BTW, a foreign film even to you... he also had an interesting reactions to Rublev, and I woudln't mind seeing him write about it.
      I would submit to you, my dear nasty friend, that if someone simply looked at every film I posted a positive review about here, he would not be so badly off overall at all... surely, he would end up with some disagreements, but I have no doubts it would open up his horizons... just like following the recommendations of some good folks here did open mine.
      Back to surfing channels... have a cold one - seems like you really need it.
Re: What is the real pity is that one has to mention it. nt - patrickU 12:07:51 03/14/04 (2)
nt
- It? - Len_ 12:25:47 03/14/04 (1)
  Has to mention what, specifically? Or are you just Victor's yes-man?
  - Re: Well there are waves.... - patrickU 13:38:44 03/14/04 (0)
    You and me are not on the same.

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